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Packing pieces

Trivial as it may seem, packing pieces in boxes cannot be overlooked. That is, when talking about 100% mint&boxed (if this is realistic, taking factory flaws, aging of the material, finger prints, minor storage wear or slight discoloration of the box etc, into account) all packing pieces should be present, because in theory the model and the package should be in the same state as when they left the factory.
Packing pieces were very useful for protecting both the model and the box. Especially for models with moving parts, asymetrical models and models with difficult extensions and protuberances like handles, jibs, hooks etc, packing pieces were a must in order to keep them steady and fixed in the rectangular box, and to prevent them from piercing the box.
I don’t know if there are collectors who are so purist that they would refuse a ‘M/B’ model without the packing pieces that should be present, but it would be interesting to start a Dinky Wiki showing as many packing pieces as we can, because I don’t know any place where such information is systematically gathered and available for reference. In Ramsay’s catalogue there is incidental information about the presence and number of packing pieces. Sometimes the packing pieces are even amusing and surprising.
Perhaps the moderator can start a new heading for packing pieces in the Dinky Wiki area.
As a start, in order to show what I mean, I like present some remarkable examples.

The Elevator loader is one of the best examples for the need of packing pieces. Perhaps it’s the Dinky with the highest number of movable parts. This seems to justify the use of no less than 5 packing pieces.

The Tank Transporter is another one which needs a lot of support to prevent it from rattling in the box.

The Caravan has a nice example of packing piece which does not protect the model, on the contrary, it protects the box from being pierced by the hook.

The aeroplanes are nice models with a lot of sharp protruding parts. Both the model, for which the box presents too much space, and the box itself are protected by the use of a packing piece.

And, finally, this example of the Coles Mobile Crane being kept in place and the box protected against the big handles on both sides by two sturdy pieces of cardboard. Needless to state: ‘Before lifting out crane remove this packing piece’.

I hope that we cancreate a Wiki for this topic and that others can supply a lot more information and pictures in this field than I have.

Kind regards, Jan Werner

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Hello Jan

It has been quite some time since you started this thread so I thought it was about time someone added to it! Here is an example for the 661 Recovery Tractor showing the four packing pieces, one of which is a cut-out in which the model resides. The only piece not shown is the upper cardboard with cut-out for the winding handle that sits over the top of the model.

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Dear Bruce, after so many years of trying to set up some discussions and initiatives to exchange and share each other's knowledge, it is very hopeful, promising and rewarding to see that some are picked up now, also thanks to you and other active contributors to this wonderful site.
Following this initial post above I started filling in a section in the Documents and Archive category in the Members' menu. I stopped that as any additions by others or any other feedback seemed to be lacking. Perhaps now is the moment for you and other esteemed new contributors to expand that section. The same goes for the boxes section. It could be a huge source of information for all of us!
Thanks again for picking this up, kind regards, Jan

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Here are two of my 14c/401 Coventry Climax Fork Lift Trucks.

They show the lower and upper packing pieces and the original packing label.

I will have to look at my other boxes to see what other packing pieces I have.

Dave

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Hello Jan

Nice to see Dave coming "on board" with this post. I completely agree with all you have said. I have been a member for two years but it has only been lately when I have decided to get off the proverbial and make some contribution towards the dissemination of knowledge on matters relating to Dinky Toys. Actually, I should have joined many years back, at the time when John King through "CollectorLink" brought to my attention the establishment of the Association. At that time, there was a problem in remitting funds, as it cost the earth to buy a bank draft, but these days with PayPal it is a dream!

Anyway to the subject at hand, attached is a packing piece sitting on the back of my Terex Rear Dump Truck which was all that the later models were given by way of protection! I also have a Euclid in an end-flap box with an identical packing piece. Quite a difference to the blue-striped box era!
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Great to see this revival, thanks!

One of my eleven 555/955's, showing the single added packing piece only. Not very impressive, ideally it should be present, however!
Kind regards, Jan

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Just found another nice couple in my image files:

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Just found another nice one, the 563/963 Blaw Knox Heavy Tractor.

Note the printing registration problem on the box label, the black is not correctly aligned with the red.

Dave

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Jan
What an excellent 161 with all its internal packing pieces. Where has it been all these years??!!
David
Very nice seeing the internal upper piece on your 563. A great printing error too!

Here is another to be added to this post which is great to see it now slowly developing - a 277 with its packing piece and cardboard ring to protect the flashing light.

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The 448 Chevrolet Pick-Up and Trailers with its internal packing pieces in place.
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Bruce

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Greetings all,
The internal packaging for the 781 Petrol Pump Station "Esso".Kind regards, Bruce

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Dave, I stole this nice one from you, found it in the photography specials thread:

Kind regards, Jan

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Six 105a Garden Rollers in a trade box

Dave

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Not the most complicated, or sophisticated, packing piece but nevertheless part of the picture as a whole.

Dave

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Hi Dave,
Lovely boxes there. See you're suffering from the curse of the Garden Roller, the broken handle. It's a miracle the other 5 look good, I see about 1 in 20 that still have both.
Chris Warr.

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The packing piece, helping to keep the French no. 890 porte-char in place in the box:

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Gentlemen

Following on with Jan's first post that included the 571 Coles Mobile Crane, the following is another version of the packing pieces used for the 571.

Bruce

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Jan

I cannot believe that your most fascinating thread remained in limbo for four years without one member adding to it. How was that possible?? It is marvelous that Chris and Dave are providing valuable contributions.

Bruce

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Bruce, it's thanks to you and some other very welcome and esteemed recent contributors that the forum/site is in a new revival phase now, and we are very grateful for that! Please go on picking up old posts which hardly had any attention in the past years! (and some which really do deserve some more attention).

I had a look at my Esso Pump Station and found some differences with yours which are worth while showing here in my opinion:

So, my example has the box version which has no picture but just blind sides with the Dinky Toys brand printed. Besides, as the insert is concerned, it curiously lacks the recesses necessary to keep the pumps set in place!

Kind regards, Jan

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Jan - Very interesting. The price of 4/6 dates your example between January 1956 to April 1959 and May 1961 to April 1962. Although it does not have the italic printing for DINKY TOYS I am inclined to think your example was made between May 1961 and April 1962 when perhaps costs were becoming an issue. Of course it could also have been en error in that the manufacturer of the boxes/inserts forgot to include the recesses for the pumps.
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Bruce

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The regular blue striped lid box for the no. 972 Coles 20-ton Lorry Mounted Crane is provided with two packing pieces. One base for the model to rest in, and one rather complicated, articulated, stapled piece for holding the model and the movable jib in place. Remarkable is the free and visible logo cut-out for the rear decal of the crane house. This way of packing also goes for the German promo of ca. 1962, of which I show some pictures below. Kind regards, Jan

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Two solutions for keeping the 571/971 Coles Mobile Crane in place compared. The initial one on top, the later one below.

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1423 Cabriolet Peugeot 504

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                                                                                           A very rare packing piece.