Just received the first issue Dinky Toys 14c Coventry Climax Fork Lift Truck and the last issue 404 Climax Conveyancer Fork Lift Truck, both with box. The forklift truck is produced in 1949 and is manufactured still during the closure of the plant until 1980. I find it interesting to bring the development of this model in picture. In DTCA I did not find an existing topic 14c, 401 or 404. However, in TMT, but not fully until the end of Binns Road. The model is classified as a Commercial Vehicle:
1) 14c UK: 1949-1954 - Orange, Brown or Dark Red, Green Fork. Tan driver - 108 mm - 1954 renumbered to 401
2) 14c French: 1950-1951 - Orange, Yellow Fork ???, Tan driver - 108 mm - Text baseplate ??? Pictures???
3) 401 UK: 1954-1964 - Orange with Green Fork. Tan driver - 108 mm - Renumbering of 14c
4) 597 French: 1959-1961 - Orange with Yellow Fork. Tan driver - 108 mm - baseplate: Meccano Paris Dinky Toys Chariot A Fourches Coventry Climax Assemble en France 597
5) 404 UK: 1967-1980 - Red and Yellow, later Orange and Yellow - 97 mm - CG4 decals, Pallet, Instruction sheet. Steerable.
6) 404 UK: 1978-1980 - Yellow - 97 mm - TC4 decals, Pallet, Instruction on the back- and underside of the box. Steerable.
I show pictures of my two models and boxes in which the differences are visible. I have box 14c with stock number 50003 on the lower right front. This box variation I have not seen in TMT or DTCA. My box 14c is priced 7/2 with pencil. Through my collection catalogs and leaflets can I reconstruct that my box in March 1951 in the store is priced. The stock number is (re) introduced around 1950 and starts with 5 digits at 50000. My stock number 50003 (March 1951) does not match the model number 14c. Box 582 Pull More Car Transporter (1953) represents stock number 50582 which matches the model number 582. I don't know if the stock numbers after the renumbering were still be used. I have not seen examples of that. I add some photos of a French Export 14c box. This box is also mentioned in TMT, but no picture. There are several box, model and color variations of the truck 14c, 401 and 404. I found 13 box variations of the Fork Lift Truck:
1. 14c UK - orange lid box - orange label - orange model lettering
2. 14c UK - orange lid box - orange label - black model lettering
3. 14c UK - orange lid box - orange label - orange model lettering - stocknumber 50003
4. 14c French - orange lid box - orange label - white model lettering Chariot A Fourche
5. 14c UK - orange lid box - green label - green model lettering
6. 14c French Export - red lid box - yellow label - black model lettering Chariot A Fourche
7. 401 UK - Blue striped lid box - red model lettering
8. 401 UK - Yellow lid picture box - black model lettering - yellow under box
9. 401 UK - Yellow lid picture box - black model lettering - blue under box
10. 597 French - Yellow lid picture box - black model lettering Chariot A Fourche - yellow under box
11. 597 French - Yellow lid picture box - black model lettering Chariot A Fourche - blue under box
12. 404 UK - White Yellow carded picture box - black model lettering
13. 404 UK - Red Yellow Blue hanged window box - white model lettering
I hope at reactions in this forum with additions of information and variations, even for model 404. OK ... of course ... I know. .. the later models, such as 404 have plastic parts, but to speak with the daughter of Frank Hornby: "Aren 't they Dinky!". It deserve a place in this forum too. I'm from 1946, but hope that also younger members the stunning "modern" models from the period 1960-1980 will show and discuss in this forum. I have for instance some questions about changing the name of model 404. Why were the name of model 404 changed in 1967 from Coventry Climax to Conveyancer Fork Lift and why were model 404 after that in 1978 changed in Climax Conveyancer? Did the Coventry company no more exist in 1967? Is model 404 a reproduction of a real one from an other company than Coventry? I am a Dutchman (not the flying Dutchman) and don't know enough about the British Companies, but I am interested to know that. I hope that UK members can solve these questions.