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--40d and 152 Austin A40 Devon Saloon (1949-59)

Hi Gents,
Got this A40 at Xmas, never seen this colour on a Devon before, pretty much the same as the Vanguard...


I'm not even going there in suggesting a name for the shade of blue...... :lol:

Chris Warr.


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Re : --40d and 152 Austin A40 Devon Saloon (1949-59)

Hi Chris, have a look in DT&MM and you will see examples on page 133.
Because of the flash the exact shade of your example is hard to tell, but have a look on the internet (illustrations Dinky Austin Devon) and you will find quite a few that seem to match the colour shade of your example quite well!
Kind regards, Jan


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Re : --40d and 152 Austin A40 Devon Saloon (1949-59)

It is not dissimilar to the shade of blue used for the 40j/161 Austin Somerset the darker blue is much more common on the Devon.

Ramsay's lists this as the scarcest variation of the Austin Devon saloon.

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Re : --40d and 152 Austin A40 Devon Saloon (1949-59)

Hello everybody.

Here is my contribution to the Devon


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What a wonderful collection of Austins, they are superb.

Dave


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Re : --40d and 152 Austin A40 Devon Saloon (1949-59)

Thank you Dave


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Re : --40d and 152 Austin A40 Devon Saloon (1949-59)

Lovely set of A40's there Richard, only got 8 of them so far,a few more still to go.
The different two toning on the rears is always hard to remember which is which when I'm going through models at a fair.
CW.


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Re : --40d and 152 Austin A40 Devon Saloon (1949-59)

Have pity on me, this is my only Austin Devon:

Kind regards, Jan


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Re : --40d and 152 Austin A40 Devon Saloon (1949-59)

As it seems that I am not the only one interested by the austin Devon my fascination for the variants allow me to present you the result of my study on this item. (cars only, not the boxes).
For me there are, at least, 3 different transformations in the Austin Devon shape.

First shape :
Base plate with "small letters" and smooth inside roof ; that's concerning the Red body and wheels and the brown red body and wheels items

Second shape :
Base plate with "big letters" and smooth inside roof ; that's concerning the Fawn body and green wheels model

Third shape :
Base plate with "big letters" and DEVON carved on the inside roof ; that's concerning the following item :
-Green body with fawn wheels
-Green body with cream wheels
-Dark blue with blue wheels
-Light blue body and wheels
-light green body and wheels
-Light green with fawn wheels
-All the two colours items.

All the above colours are on the above photo but I think that, for the first shape we can find 3 others colours combinations as :
-Light green body and wheels
-Dark blue and blue wheels
-Red with brown wheels

All the first shape are numbered 40D

For the second shape, I have no other informations on variants; I don't know if it's a 40D or a 152 reference.

For the third shape, there is an another exemplar in Fawn with green wheels.
All those are numbered 152

Has somebody other informations or varaints ?
I will be very pleased to read you.

Good evening everybody.

Richard


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Re : --40d and 152 Austin A40 Devon Saloon (1949-59)

I have made a little mistake :
In the first shape the red body with the brown red wheels is on the photo ! Sorry about that.
Richard


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Re : --40d and 152 Austin A40 Devon Saloon (1949-59)

Great info Richard,
I'll have to look and see what I've got,
Here's an older picture anyway,


Doesn't include the light blue at the front of this post.

To be honest I don't look at anything except body and hub colours.
These are the ones I still have on my wants list:

Austin Devon. (7).
Two Tone : Yellow & Blue / Rear Lights covered in Blue
Two Tone : Pink & Green / Rear Lights not covered in Green
Dark Green, Cream Hubs
Grey / Green, Grey / Green hubs
Light Green, Light Green Hubs
Light Green, Maroon Hubs
Maroon, Red Hubs

I know it's difficult to name the shades, I call the murky mid green "Grey/green" as it seems to have a grey tinge to it to me!

Chris Warr


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Re : --40d and 152 Austin A40 Devon Saloon (1949-59)

Thank you Chris.
For both of my two tones yellow/blue, the rear lights are painted in red.

Behind your devon I can see the very nice Rover 75. I like this car very much.
There are also, a lot of variants ! Is there a special Rover 75 post ?

Jan , it's perhaps the only one, but it's a very nice one !

Friendly yours.

Richard


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Re : --40d and 152 Austin A40 Devon Saloon (1949-59)

Hi Richard,
No, no Rover post I know of, why not start one off?
:laugh:

Chris Warr


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Re : --40d and 152 Austin A40 Devon Saloon (1949-59)

I have been quiet recently because I have had a huge amount of work to do on a book project, this will be going to the printers in the next few days so I intend to be more active on the website.

Here is my little group of Devons with a trade box and an individual box.

Dave


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Re : --40d and 152 Austin A40 Devon Saloon (1949-59)

Hi Bruce

I have created a thread for the 40d Devon and moved the stuff into that, it has also taken your thread on the Somerset which now really needs to be moved back to the 40j entry, I cannot do that as I was not the originator, if you copy the thread into the 40j and then delete your own thread I think everything will then be OK with two correct threads.

When I created the headings for the all the UK threads this was thousands of individual entries and took me about 100 hours to complete. I took the dates from Ramsey's as they were readily available and it was absolutely IMPOSSIBLE for me to individually check, and correct/amend, these dates as I simply do not have the time to do that. That would have taken weeks!!!!

Furthermore on some of the entries I have added some information like A40 to the Somerset, Humber to the 1-ton Army Truck. These additions are factual and not something I have invented, somehow this seems to be a serious offence - if that is the case I am GUILTY.

I am really wishing I had not created this damned list in the first place, it took a huge amount of my time, no-one is using it and all I get are criticisms.

After the end of this year I won't be a member of the DTCA and that will not upset me in the slightest, I promised to try to help Dave Kaun out with the huge amount of work required on the website and I will not renege on that promise. Any volunteers for someone else to step up to the plate next year?????

These things are toys and we are supposed to be having fun.

Dave

 


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Re : --40d and 152 Austin A40 Devon Saloon (1949-59)

David,

You should not have had to create a new thread, it should be there already with no hyphen in front and one after the ref.

The Devon was described in the January 1949 Meccano Magazine together with the Blaw-Knox bulldozer. So the date of issue is correct in the thread heading. the date of deletion is often difficult to establish but 1958 seems to be correct.

David you are not responsible for the dates as you have taken them from Ramseys which as every book and CD contains some errors.

 


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Re : --40d and 152 Austin A40 Devon Saloon (1949-59)

David and Jacques

I have no idea how to transfer my post to the 40j/161 topic and besides it would contain details that are no longer relevant, so  I have deleted it in its entirety, thus losing about an hour's worth of my time. No worries.

Jacques

Dave no doubt used the pdf list to create the new Topic for the Devon as it still contains "A40" which Meccano never used.. Dates can be corrected as time goes by. 

Dave

As for the amount of hours spent, when you prepared the list of entries, it is disappointing that you did not consider sending the pdf out to others within the organization to check all your work. I am not certain if you did - maybe you did not think that I and others would be capable of providing some assistance. As I have stated several times previously, your efforts are more than appreciated, but I just wished that I could have offered some assistance.

As for adding details, well I must disagree with you in that regard. As you have often said, these are/were toys, and the title for each toy should reflect exactly how Meccano described them. For instance, I should be complaining that the Holden does not contain the factual designation of the model.  It is in fact a Holden EJ Special Sedan, but I am perfectly happy with what Meccano called it, even when I received mine all those years ago from a father who worked for a Holden dealer. But to add factual details is completely unnecessary. Meccano never included the word "cigarettes" with the Capstan van either, it was simply a Morris Commercial Van - Capstan.

However, I have noticed over the past 21 months that I have contributed to this website that possibly the amount of hours I have spent researching, checking, writing, selecting images, reducing these to a size acceptable to the site, and finally posting the description and images was perhaps a complete waste of my time and all this has achieved is to increase the load on this website. At times I have often wondered whether it would have been best for me to have just continued my membership, received and read The Journal, had a wander through the website, and left it at that without getting "involved".

Finally, I have heard from SAS who have apologised for not acting on my request to send that parcel to you, and have offered to send it post free. Under the circumstances with what has ensured with this website, I will be replying to SAS requesting them not to send the lots to you for on-forwarding to me but to put them back for auction.  Thank you for your initial kindness for agreeing to act as my postman of which I was and still am, very grateful.

Sincerely

Bruce   (150)

20160407/873/0314

 

 


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Re : --40d and 152 Austin A40 Devon Saloon (1949-59)

Hi Bruce

It is the mechanics of the system that stopped me moving your Somerset item over. You can only move a complete thread and not individual contributions. Whilst struggling with really slow response time on the site I could not do any more than I did

Obviously guilty on all charges, I did my utmost best in creating the list in a very limited timeframe.

Sorry I am not perfect.

Dave


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Re : --40d and 152 Austin A40 Devon Saloon (1949-59)

Dear Members.

I have found in an old english magazine, called THE ILLUSTRATED LONDON NEWS, dated february 17, 1945, with a very funny publicity for an Austin 10. 

As there is no Austin 10 in the Dinky range, I post it here.

Kind regards

Richard