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-155 Ford Anglia 105E Saloon (1961-66)

Greetings all,

The Ford Motor Co. GB introduced the Ford Anglia (105E) on 30th September 1959, and it was in production until November 1967 when it was replaced by the Ford Escort. During it's life there were several versions (estate car, van etc. and alternative engine sizes). Production started at the Dagenham factory in Essex but was transferred to the new Ford factory at Halewood (Merseyside) in March 1963. The first car off the line was a light green Anglia 105E which was offered as a prize in the local newspaper. This car (Job no.1) was registered 1 KF, and although in private hands until 1966, was re-acquired by the Ford plant and donated to the (then) Liverpool City Museum, where it is now a prized exhibit.

The Dinky model was introduced in July 1961 with an advertisement in the M.M., showing a turquoise model (the Ford colour was 'Caribbean Turquoise') - however, if you check your Dinky catalogues you will see that it was shown two months earlier in the 9th edition catalogue, (print ref. 7/561/700 = May 1961) in yellow - as per the leaflet pictured by Bruce recently. Presumably this indicates that there had been an earlier intention for the model to be painted yellow. Despite this, the standard colour throughout the production life of this model was turquoise - originally with a red interior and 'Mirror-gloss' base, then towards the end of production with a satin-black base and light blue interior.

Apart from the South African models of 1962-3, there was only one other colour variation - the Ford Motor Co. commissioned a Dinky model painted in light green to be given away at the opening ceremony of the Halewood plant on 8th March 1963, and a very few of these were mounted on plinth bases with an engraved plaque and the name of the dignitary, who I think attended the celebration luncheon on that date - there is a pic of one of these in Richardson's GBDT. The unmounted models occasionally turn up, but usually in fairly battered condition.

This is one of the Ford promotional models (the best I have been able to find so far)


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Re : -155 Ford Anglia 105E Saloon (1961-66)

Whoops - had a problem adding more pics so I will try again:

Here is the Ford promotional model, plus what I believe is one of the 'never-issued' models in yellow!

In 1962, Nabisco Foods of Welwyn Garden City, Herts. ran a promotion aimed at younger boys (probably and Dads too) - send in TEN (!) Shredded Wheat box tops to receive a free Dinky 155 Ford Anglia model (that's a lot of Shredded Wheat) - and here is one of those models, the only additional item being the mail-out box which also included a leaflet (eat more Shredded Wheat?), sadly my leaflet is missing in action!

The Dinky model was deleted some time in 1966(?) after the take-over by Tri-ang, and probably didn't have as much appeal as newer models because of it's lack of 'features'.

Here is a pic of the later version with light blue interior:

Any additional information is welcomed (except for the South African models, which have been covered extremely well in the recent Journals).

Regards, Adrian (141)


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Hello Adrian

What a great set of 155 Ford Anglia sedans! Nice seeing the Trade Pack for the 155. I am so glad that someone has come up with a yellow model, as shown with the leaflet I submitted on another thread.

This is what I submitted then:
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"Dave

A little late, but no, I have not seen a black 186. As the model is marked as "Coming Soon", it is possible the final decision on its colour schemes had not been made by the time the price list went to press.

Here is another example, this time the 186 is in one of its colour schemes, but above it is a 155 Ford Anglia in yellow, with no mention that it is "Coming Soon". The price list/leaflet was issued after 21 July 1961 from an earlier printing in May 1961. No doubt in May, the final colour scheme of turquoise had not been made.

Has anyone seen a yellow 155 Ford Anglia in their travels!! :laugh:

Bruce"

There appears to have been two quite separate castings for the 155. I have a picture around here somewhere that shows one of the variations, a more rounded boot, and another with a more distinct badge on the bonnet. If I can find both images I will attach them to this post.

As for the 155 production time frame, most references have it in production until 1966. The model made its last catalogue/leaflet appearance in August 1965 priced at 3/11 but by the time a price list leaflet was published the following month, September 1965 the 155 Ford Anglia was not included. So one can safely say that the Anglia had been deleted by this date. Of course, the model would still have been available after this time in most toy shops, and certainly much longer in Australia.

Keep up the great work and I look forward to seeing and reading more from "down there"!

One of the images has been found, photographed on 21 November 2003. I am uncertain if I still have both examples, so will check them out. From memory, it was one of my light blue interior models that had the rounded boot, which made for an odd shape rear window.

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Bruce

There appears to have been two quite separate castings for the 155. I have a picture around here somewhere that shows one of the variations, a more rounded boot, and another with a more distinct badge on the bonnet. If I can find both images I will attach them to this post.

As for the 155 production time frame, most references have it in production until 1966. The model made its last catalogue/leaflet appearance in August 1965 priced at 3/11 but by the time a price list leaflet was published the following month, September 1965 the 155 Ford Anglia was not included. So one can safely say that the Anglia had been deleted by this date. Of course, the model would still have been available after this time in most toy shops, and certainly much longer in Australia.

Keep up the great work and I look forward to seeing and reading more from "down there"!



One of the images has been found, photographed on 21 November 2003. I am uncertain if I still have both examples, so will check them out. From memory, it was one of my light blue interior models that had the rounded boot, which made for an odd shape rear window.

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Bruce

In the absence of any comment on the above post I am attaching hopefully better images of the two quite distinct castings. The one on the left has the flatter boot line and les curve of the lower back window, with the one on the right having a rounded boot line and more curve with the lower back window.

THE RED INTERIOR VERSION WITH THE NORMAL BOOT LINE AND STRAIGHTER REAR WINDOW

THE PALE BLUE INTERIOR VERSION WITH THE ROUNDED BOOT AND LOWER REAR WINDOW

Together with the above, I have a query. Under the bonnet on the interior of the casting can be found FORD ANGLIA and then on the lower right, the letter R. This letter has been found on all the 155 Ford Anglia that have passed through my hands, including the example with the light blue interior which has the rounded boot, the subject of the above photograph.

Below can be seen the letter R under the bonnet on the light blue version


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Re : -155 Ford Anglia 105E Saloon (1961-66)

Bruce,

There seems to be an other difference between your two Anglias. This may be due to a slightly different angle at which your pictures were taken. Please confirm this variation.

The base plate was finished in either gloss or mat finish.

If some models had a letter L instead of an R, I would think that the die had two cavities but if all the models have an R, I have no idea of it's meaning.

If you magnify your pictures x 4 or 5 you can see some marks as if the die has been modified.


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Jacques

Thank you for seeing this, except I think this is a reflection on how I photographed them as I was more intent on showing the curvature of the back window, and I forgot to look at the lower part of the model. What you are seeing with the red interior model is the lower section of the body which in some circles is referred to as the skirt. No other differences can be seen - just the boot. Perhaps I should try again!!

I am editing this post as you have added a few more pictures to yours since I first submitted this one. I have been able to locate the recalcitrant Anglia, and examined it under a jeweler's glass, and what looks like an alteration on the left side, is simply not there. All that shows are the usual rough scratchings associated with the die that no doubt facilitates ejection. There is absolutely nothing there to indicate that a latter had been removed. So we are back to square one.

By the way, I have edited my post with the photographs as in my rush to get it out into the public domain, I did not specifically label each model.


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Re : -155 Ford Anglia 105E Saloon (1961-66)

Greetings to everybody,

when I started this thread, I mentioned a joint promotion between Dinky and Nabisco Foods (makers of Welgar Shredded Wheat) in which a free model was offered if twelve Shredded Wheat packet tops were submitted. I also included a picture of one of these models together with it's 'mail-out' box, and I have now obtained another example - but this one is interesting (at least, to me) for three reasons:

1 It is another example of the promotional model for my collection.
2 It unfortunately shows a factory fault - damaged paintwork to the boot-lid, caused during fixing of the rear baseplate spigot.
3 The box has a very clear date-stamp on one end flap, presumably 11th March 1962 (or could it be - packed by 'MR' in November 1962? What do you think, Bruce?

Not only that, but the mail-out box has an address which is a bit of a puzzle - the lucky recipient was residing at somewhere called "A.M.Q. Alderton, near Woodbridge, Suffolk".

Now, I am familiar with Woodbridge, but so far my research, which shows Alderton as a very small village, has been unable to find any mention of "A.M.Q." at or near Alderton in 1962. It sounds like some military establishment or barracks, but does anybody know what it was? Dave, you have a good knowledge of things military, do you have any ideas?

The other interesting detail is in the postal rubber-stamp, which shows the model as having been despatched from Liverpool, rather than from Nabisco Foods who were in Welwyn Garden City - so either the models were sent out by Meccano, or they had a local sub-contractor handling the promotions for them.

Do any other members have examples of these joint promotional models with Nabisco, in their original mailing boxes?

Regards to everybody, Adrian (141).


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Adrian,
With reference to the damaged rear pillar on your Anglia, I remember my disappointment back in the school holidays in 1961 after I had saved up my pocket money to buy an Anglia. On opening the box, mine had similar damage, to such an extent that the bootlid was pushed upwards, and a hairline crack was present in the rear window. Luckily for me, the shopkeeper (The Boathouse Shop, St. Ives Harbour, Cornwall) was good enough to exchange it for me. Perhaps I should have kept it as a "rare factory error"!
Perhaps the "AMQ" in your Nabisco address stands for "Army Married Quarters"?
- Kevin.


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Hello Kevin,

thanks for your suggestion for 'A.M.Q.' - this was one of my theories, and having done some more research this morning, I have discovered that there was a R.A.F. Married Quarters at Alderton, which serviced the R.A.F. base at nearby Woodbridge (used by the U.S.A.F.) so you were pretty close! I presume it was easier to use the abbreviation 'A.M.Q.' which presumably stands for 'Airforce Married Quarters', rather than R.A.F.M.Q. which is a bit of a mouthful.

As far as the damage to the bootlid on the Anglia is concerned, the base spigot on my model shows signs of having been spun over off-centre - so my guess is that, because of the shape of the rear window, it would have been critical that the model was accurately positioned in the 'cradle' which held the painted casting in position, in order to spread the pressure of the spinning operation - and that some models were not positioned accurately enough, causing the damage to the bootlid paint. A few damaged models must have missed the inspection process, yours being one of the worst ones. I hope it didn't spoil your holiday - thank goodness for sympathetic shopkeepers!

Regards to everybody, Adrian (141)


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55Zephyr wrote:
"Greetings to everybody,

when I started this thread, I mentioned a joint promotion between Dinky and Nabisco Foods (makers of Welgar Shredded Wheat) in which a free model was offered if twelve Shredded Wheat packet tops were submitted. I also included a picture of one of these models together with it's 'mail-out' box, and I have now obtained another example - but this one is interesting (at least, to me) for three reasons:

1 It is another example of the promotional model for my collection.
2 It unfortunately shows a factory fault - damaged paintwork to the boot-lid, caused during fixing of the rear baseplate spigot.
3 The box has a very clear date-stamp on one end flap, presumably 11th March 1962 (or could it be - packed by 'MR' in November 1962? What do you think, Bruce?

Not only that, but the mail-out box has an address which is a bit of a puzzle - the lucky recipient was residing at somewhere called "A.M.Q. Alderton, near Woodbridge, Suffolk".

Now, I am familiar with Woodbridge, but so far my research, which shows Alderton as a very small village, has been unable to find any mention of "A.M.Q." at or near Alderton in 1962. It sounds like some military establishment or barracks, but does anybody know what it was? Dave, you have a good knowledge of things military, do you have any ideas?

The other interesting detail is in the postal rubber-stamp, which shows the model as having been despatched from Liverpool, rather than from Nabisco Foods who were in Welwyn Garden City - so either the models were sent out by Meccano, or they had a local sub-contractor handling the promotions for them.

Do any other members have examples of these joint promotional models with Nabisco, in their original mailing boxes?

Regards to everybody, Adrian (141)."

Adrian

This is very interesting - in fact how on earth have you been able to obtain not one, but two of these obscure marketing gems?? What sort of hidden pool have you been delving into!!!

I think you will find that "MR" is the initials of the inspector, with the date being November 1962. I presume the date on the post office cancellation stamp is too faint to read, although might I suggest if that is the case that it be photographed and allow Photoshop to bring it up. Does the other mailing box have a clearer cancellation stamp?

It is interesting that the model has an obvious factory damage and should not have been despatched, unless this exercise was not considered important enough to warrant first-class models being mailed out as the entire cost, model, handling and the despatch was carried out by Meccano on behalf of Nabisco. When did this promotion start and end? Perhaps if I were to wade through all my EAGLE comics I might find the answer!

Interesting too how the discussion is now concentrated on A.M.Q.!! Of course we now know that this means Another Mighty Question!! :laugh: :whistle:

Cheers

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Re : -155 Ford Anglia 105E Saloon (1961-66)

Sorry guys, I have not been on the site for a few days due to the amount of time I am devoting to the new website and family committments.

I really can't add any more to what has already been discussed here.

Dave


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Adrian

Can you tell me if your Anglia has the rounded/arched rear window or the more common flatter window, for the want of a better description.

I have an Anglia which the base plate has not been spun over so I am wondering if the model was prone to the sort of damage as shown in your photograph of the Nabisco mail-out Anglia. The Anglia is the one shown on the right below.

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Hello Bruce,

I have just examined all my 155 Anglia models (would you believe 21 of them - am I obsessed or what?) and these are my observations:

1 Only three of them have what you describe as the 'arched' bottom edge of the rear window, one of them being the recent 'Nabisco' model with damaged bootlid paint.

2 The above three models all have base rivets which have been spun over with a tool which does NOT leave a dimple in the centre of the spigot (a later tool - is this significant?)

3 Two of these three models are later versions with light blue interiors instead of the usual red.

4 All the rest have a very slight curve to this bottom window edge, but not as pronounced as the three above.

I have noticed that the three with the more pronounced curve also seem to have a build-up of 'flash' around the rear window opening, back edge of the roof & C-pillars (as does your picture of the model with more pronounced curve), especially at the centre of the lower window edge, which seems to accentuate the curve even more. I am now wondering if the curve was not a 'modification' of the die, but perhaps it was caused by excessive pressure of the spinning tool actually distorting the boot lid, and therefore the causing the curve of the bootlid and window edge to be increased? I assumed that the 'cradle' to support the casting for the spinning operation was custom-made for each model - but maybe it wasn't? Is it conceivable that excessive pressure on the spinning tool could have this effect? Who knows!

And if you are wondering, the reason for having so many models is that I am always looking to upgrade - when I acquired the 'Trade Carton' for six several years ago, my next quest was to obtain six boxed models in as near-mint condition as possible to fill it. So far I haven't yet got round to selling the duplicates which have been acquired along the way!

Regards to all, Adrian (141)


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Good evening Adrian

Many thanks for looking at your TWENTY ONE (!!!) 155 Ford Anglia's! I have pulled out my THREE and had another look at them as well as their photography. The first thing I realised is that I am not much of a photographer, as many are atrociously out of focus! Must have been the heat of the sun!

However, I have had two Ford Anglia's with the pale blue interior, and both had the matt/semi-matt base plate which also indicates a later issue.

These are the images of my first light blue example that was later sold, with this model beside a normal red interior issue, the former being on the left:

Unfortunately, back in 2003, the real significance of the pale blue interior Anglia had not been fully realised by me, and I sold this model without photographing its base plate.

We then come to the latest acquisition, acquired not long after I had sold the far better example, which shows how mindless one can become under the heat of the Queensland sun by giving up an excellent example in order to secure a worse example!!

One thing that caught my attention was the difference how the front and rear spigots were "spun over", with what appears to have been greater care being taken with the rear spigot. This may have been as a result of the damage sustained with your models.

Finally the curved lower section of the rear window occurred late in the life of the Anglia and at a time when the interior had been changed, either permanently or temporarily from red to pale blue with the change to the matt finish base plate. If no 155 models with these characteristics, (matt base plate and curved lower rear window), can be found with a red interior, then this perhaps is conclusive evidence that the pale blue interior was the last issue for the 155 Ford Anglia.

Kind regards

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Hello Adrian - Long time no hear!

We have been discussing Nabisco promotional models on the 182 Porshe 356A topic, when the subject of the 155 arose. In that topic I included some pictures of my pale green 155 Ford Anglia, so thought I would add these pictures here to sort of complete the picture!

The first image is that of the usual colour, turquoise,

Followed by the pale green example,

And finally, both together, the first from above, 

and finally side by side, with the pale green version sitting on the box for the turquoise example,

As can be seen, comparing the pale green version given out to Ford employees as depicted above by Adrian, there is a large difference in the tone of both pale greens.

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