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-585 Berliet GAK benne basculante (1961-1964)

 

                                                       A good looking French Dinky truck but there is an error on the box.

Of course this tipper is not a van.


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Re : -585 Berliet GAK benne basculante (1961-1964)

What then about this no. 25f Market Gardiner's VAN? May be it's because English is not my native language that I have never understood the meaning of 'van' in this respect. However, the model is also referred to as 'Market Gardiner's Wagon'. 


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Re : -585 Berliet GAK benne basculante (1961-1964)

Hllo Jan,

I hope that an English member will answear this and give us a definition of the word "van". For me a van is a closed commercial vehicle.

In which catalogue did you find this 25f ?


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Re : -585 Berliet GAK benne basculante (1961-1964)

Hi Jacques, that detail is taken from the (undated) ca. 1947-48 US catalogue, four pages. I chose that one because it nicely shows the combination of both the Market Gardiner's Van and the 'real' Delivery Van. But this is no American exception, as you can see on the detail below, derived from the well-known Model Collector reproduction of the British 1939 Dinky Toys catalogue. 


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Re : -585 Berliet GAK benne basculante (1961-1964)

Gentlemen,

I believe I have a good English vocabulary and use it correctly but I cannot understand why Meccano used the term 'van' to describe the Market Gardener's truck. To me a van, as Jacques says, is a vehicle that has a closed roof and sides and, usually, rear doors, a shutter, or a curtain. Even in American usage the 25f would be a Stakebed Truck.

Meccano themselves seemed to be happy to call the 22c a truck, the 25a a wagon, and the 25b a covered van! I see no logic to the names other than, perhaps, to convince young purchasers that the range of models available was comprehensive.

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John