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British boxes general

I have found why some reference numbers are printed on a red oval on some of the yellow boxes both British and French.

The red ovals can be found on the plain boxes and on the red / yellow boxes. Both these types of boxes are printed in red only, it would have been more expansive to print them in two colours.
examples : 066 - 069 - 80D - 150- -551 - 621 - 626 - 675 etc…

One more Dinky enigma solved.

I have found one exception, the 80 E 155 mm Howitzer and 641 Army 1 ton cargo truck have a plain yellow box printed in red and black and the ovals are black.

An other exception is the 33AN Simca Cargo Bailly for which the standard 33A box has been printed with red ovals with the reference 33AN.

Some yellow boxes, yellow or light yellow are printed with black ovals on the ends and red ovals on the illustrated sides. The reason for this can not be explained yet.
examples of yellow boxes 101 - 103 - 626 - 686 etc…
examples of lighter yellow boxes : 253 - 686 - etc …

There are also some late yellow Supertoys boxes with black ovals on the ends and a red oval on the lid.
example: 622.

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You're quite correct Jacques, that must be the solution. 

Now for the remaining exceptions to be explained ...

Kind regards, Jan 

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This table shows what I think are the production periods of the English end flaps boxes. Can you please check that I am not wrong and add to this table ?

thanks.

Jacques

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To respond to comment # 1.

What strikes me with regard to the oval color with reference number on the boxes is that the British red-yellow dual-numbered boxes that I have, all have a black oval, both on the front and at the end side. This makes them easy to distinguish from the later boxes with red oval on the front and black oval on the end side. Some dual numbered boxes lack an oval with number on the front and have a black oval with dual number on the end side, such as the 343 30n, of which I have 2 different ones. These boxes has pictured a different colour of the model on each long side of the box with corresponding colour spot on the end sides of the box.

Can we conclude that this is the case with all British yellow-red dual numbered boxes? Are there exceptions? I illustrate the differences with some photos of my own examples. This has not yet been mentioned here.

Jan O

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There does not seem to be any logic with these boxes.

What a mess in this factory, no wander they were bankrupt.

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Regarding the Visi-pacs, I think it's correct to say the gold ones came first and did not last very long. The yellow ones then gave way to the crystal lift-off lid ones. Many yellow Visi-pacs had the black-and-white road markings that were also featured underneath the model on the crystal boxes; but earlier yellow Visi-Pacs did not have the road markings.

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A remarkable misprint of this 955 box:

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Jan W

This is not the only box to be misprinted

                                                                                    the brown colour is missing

                         the marque DINKY TOYS is up side down

                                                                                   the colours are mis aligned

                                                                                   the colours are mis aligned

Other box errors

 

Fortunately the Führer died long before this Dinky was issued with a "Fahrer"

The Daimler is not a tank (CHAR) it is an armoured car (AUTO MITRAILLEUSE)

                          The tank on the picture has six wheels this is one too many.

The "custode" is the rear pannel, it can not be opened, it is the rear window which can be opened.


 

                                                                 Do not beleive everything which is written

Do you have any more ? I will be very glad to add them to my list.

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It is striking that first on the blue and white striped boxes standard appeared the mention "trade mark registered Dinky Supertoys" (plural) on the pictured front side of the box and the name "Dinky Supertoy" (singular) on the back side and not on the earliest boxes. I have a 965 Dinky Supertoys box with no Dinky Supertoys trade mark on the front side of the box. There are more boxes where the designation "trade mark registered" is completely missing. Some boxes has an r by the name as registered trade mark like a later 965 Dinky Supertoys box.

Similarly, the blue-white striped Dinky Toys boxes got the designation "trade mark registered Dinky Toys" (plural) on the pictured front side of the box and the name "Dinky Toy" (singular) on the back side. I found only a later blue 555 Fire Engine box with trade mark registered Dinky Toys on the pictured front side of the box. On the yellow end flap boxes the Dinky Toys registered trade mark is always on the non pictured side of the box but there are also without. Of the trade boxes I could only find a trade mark registered Dinky Toys on the blue 551 trade trailer box of 3. Perhaps more examples can be found.

Kind regards, Jan Oldenhuis 2 june 2020