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-449 Chevrolet El Camino Pick-up Truck (1961-68)

The story behind the Dinky Toys Chevrolet El Camino

The story of the Chevrolet El Camino has its origins when Ford launched its 1957 Ford Ranchero in December 1956, three months after the traditional September model year start-up. The Ranchero was the first postwar American vehicle of its type adapted from a popular sedan that was in production. It combined the sleek looks of a sedan with the utility of a light duty pickup truck.

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Hi Bruce, good to see your post here. I see you seem to have lost some image surface (cropped), which I experienced in my recent post too.

Dave Kaun, I succeeded uploading pictures in a new topic post, but how to add a picture in the comment box and what is the reason for the unwanted cropping?

And, Bruce, did you receive an automatic email notification?

Kind regards, Jan

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Jan

Sorry for my reply not being immediately under your post. I clicked on the link on the email, and that brought me to the end of the posts so started typing (s l o w l y! ! ) I now see that one's reply goes immediately after the post being answered, unlike the old site - big improvement.

I have spelt out all the problems I have encountered in my post below.

Yes, I did receive an email notification - in fact quite a few!!

Kind regards

Bruce

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Hi Jan,

 

I see that you are back home.

No, the emails do not work, a few posts have been made but I have not yet received any email for them. I did receive one for one of my posts but it does not make sens.

 

Jacques.

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Jacques

I have received emails for this Thread as I had ticked the box for the 449 as one that I wanted to receive emails. I went through the whole list that took me 15 minutes, and that was the start of my problem with registering! However, I have received multiple emails from Jan's post, and only two from you with Jan's email repeating the first two lines of his post.

This has been typed v e r y slowly to prevent errors!!angry

Cheers

Bruce

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Jan

I had a terrible time registering first! I was "blocked" and it was only requesting a new password and typing in the old one was I registered. I then found that I had already been registered a day ago!

As for my first post in this Thread I wanted to see how the new website operated, and post my story of the El Camino that was about to go onto the old website. One thing I found was the impossibility to copy text from a previously prepared text in Word or draft email message and paste it as the first post in the 449 Thread.  The second problem was typing text, adding a picture and then go back and continue the text below the first image and then attach the second image, as a continuous story, in the same manner I used in the old website. Of course there must be something that I am not doing correctly so perhaps a tutorial would not go astray! There is also a glitch in the letters appearing as I have been typing this, with many letters missing that I have to go back and correct. Also when one has a spelling mistake caused by a missing letter, right click does not bring up suggested corrections. Double click does not highlight the error either.

As yu rightly pointed out, the black and wite image (there it goes again!) i cropped, ad yet the first ime it was 800 so I went back and postdthe img as 640, both sizes acceptable with the old site. Strag tha he oter imags are all acceptale andhaenot een noticealy cropped. This is terribl wen one is typing and lettrs do not appear!

I will re-type very slowly and correct the above. As you rightly pointed out, the black and white image is cropped, and yet the first time it was 800 so I went back and posted the image at 640, both sizes acceptable on the old site. Strange that the other images are all acceptable and have not been noticeably cropped. This is terrible when one is typing and letters do not appear.

With that re-typing, obviously I type too fast for the site!  Wait until I tell my wife that I am now faster than a computer!

Cheers

Bruce

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The following was to have appeared after the first image of the 1957 Ford Ranchero:
 
In fact the concept goes back to 1932 when Ford Australia received a request from a farmer for a vehicle in which he can take his wife to church on Sundays and pigs to market on Mondays. Ford Australia undertook to supply such a vehicle which was referred to as a “utility coupe”; that is a coupe or two door vehicle which served two purposes. The term utility was always retained by Ford and later Holden to describe what became known in North America as a utility pick-up truck. Production of the Ford Utility in Australia commenced in 1934. A total of 21,706 Ford Rancheros were made in 1957 during its first year of production. The 1958 version remained basically unchanged under the engine bonnet but included a new front design that had been the inspiration of the Ford Thunderbird, dual headlights as well a change to the side chrome flash. By now, the Ford Ranchero had become a very popular vehicle.
 
With the following after the second image:
 
The 1959 model was built with the same 118 in wheelbase as all 1959 Fords, giving the Ranchero the advantage over its predecessors of a new, longer 7 foot cargo bed. The Custom Ranchero was the only model marketed in 1959 and was offered in 26 colors (eleven solid shades, eleven two-tone combinations with white on top, and four other two-tone choices including red and white).
CAN ANYONE ASSIST ME IN BEING ABLE TO ADD IMAGES AS I TYPE, AND ALSO WHAT IS THE EASY MEANS OF COPYING FROM A PREVIOUSLY PREPARED TEXT AND ADDING IT AND PHOTOGRAPHS IN A CONTINUOUS PROCESS??

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Bruce--Nice article on the El Camino, and so glad that you were finally able to log on and access the site.  I think we are all experiencing new things and how they work....or don't work!  The picture cropping for sure needs to be fixed.  I do not have your problem typing and losing letters......mine seem to work ok...maybe you are just that much faster!

    Another annoying issue is having to repeat the subject matter in the line above....it should be the same as the existing topic.....if you leave it blank, it then uses the first few words of your post as the subject!!

                               Terry

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I quite agree with your comments Terry.  Actually, the story is only about one-tenth done and I will leave it thus until the pictures and copy/pasting from a previously written document can be resolved.  The other alternative is to do a new post with text and one or more pictures at a time although I much preferred the old site for this type of long and detailed post, unless this type of post that I am used to should become a thing of the past and for the posts to concentrate on chit-chat!

Bruce

I selected a larger font which appears here but when saved it reverts to its original size. Another issue for Dave K.?

 

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Can anyone tell me if all these posts including my first one is under 449 Chevrolet El Camino Pick-up Truck?  There seems to be nothing on this page that confirms this as I selected this Thread for my first post?  Or is it a Thread that is somewhere else?

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Just answering my own question - although no heading is on this page according to Active Topics, all this stuff is in fact within the 449 Chevie Thread!!  Something to incorporate on the actual page to ensure one is in the right place, especially for geriatrics like me!

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Hello Gentlemen,

I don't seem to have a problem with typing. It keep up to me easily and I am an experienced typist.

We all have a learning curve with this Forum.

You will notice there are a bunch of editing tools at the top of the form you are typing into.

I have referenced a picture of Jan under the editing tools above. Click on it to see.

One thing you should do is prepare your text ahead of time in a word processor and copy then click on the little clipboard symbol at the top. Choose the middle one as it will paste your prepared text into the frame without any background stuff. Paste into that window and it removes the junk behind the scenes in word processor software. Use the right hand clipboard if you use Word.

Once you have it in the window you can emphasize parts as I have done above.

There is no colour pallette in the tools but I will check to see if one can be added.

Regarding the picture cropping, I will look into that when I have an opportunity.

If we are all patient and work together we can make this Forum as good as the old one and maybe even better.

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Many thanks Dave for your guidance. I am about to test the cut and paste from Word onto the site. I had been using the little icon that pops up when right-mouse clicking to paste. No wonder! I too am a typist going back many years to my work in Papua New Guinea when I had to type (and correct where need be with white-out) my work-related correspondence that amounted to well over 800 letters and memos a year. I used to also type direct into the old site without any problems, but this site, well, it must have its teething problems, or there is a problem with the sensitivity of my keyboard that can cause issues. I am in agreement with what Terry has written as the question of adding photographs and text in a continuous process is a problem. The final problem is not having the Thread at the top of the page denoting where one is. It could lead to a post on an incorrect Thread. Many thanks for all the work you have done on behalf of us all, including those who simply visit the site. Bruce

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The above icon "Image" does not work with attaching an image from one's own computer. However, the screen that popped up which I did not want as it brought me back to the Home Page could not be removed. I "cancelled" it, I tried all sorts of tricks but the damn thing remained in place.  I could not return to where I am typing this now. The only way was to close the page and start over again, thus losing my text. How come the ADD NEW COMMENT does not have the facility to add an image?

Bruce

 

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Dave---Thanks for clarifying a few things for us. A couple of other areas not addressed yet, so please respond when you can: (1). Adding text before or after, or between pictures? Can it be done and how? (2). Every post or reply asks you to fill in the subject line....even if there is already a subject, even when replying to one. If left blank, then the program inserts a few of the opening words in the subject line, which makes little sense and will only confuse. Is there a way to have the subject default to the present one unless it needs to be changed? One other area that has been noted is that navigating on the site seems to be slow, as in from logging on, then going to the forum.....will that improve in the future?
Thanks for your help!
Regards, Terry

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I think you will have to correct the title for this Thread, 449 Chevrolet El Camino Pick-up Truck, 1961-1969.  This model never made it to the 1969 catalogue dated 1 May 1969. It certainly was not included in the Dealer Order Form dated 25 July to 11 August 1969.

In fact, the model was not included in the December 1968 Dealer Order Form. The model's last appearance in an Order Form available to me was dated June 1968, which also notified the closure of the factory for the summer holidays between 19 July and 5 August 1969.

With all that the dates for the 449 should be 1961 - 1968.

Bruce   (150)

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Hi Dave Kaun and all, it's only now, six days after I posted here on 7 July, that I discovered that this discussion, following that post, continued! I received no notification mail at all (and never have!).

I still do not understand the sequence of the posts presented. Is this a thead or a mix of various subjects presented chronologically? Sorry if this is a stupid question, but I am eager to know, of course.

Kind regards, Jan

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I am uncertain why this topic is titled The story of the Chevrolet El Camino as when I posted my first comment on page 1, I was in a Post titled 449 CHEVROLET EL CAMINO 1961-1969, which asked to provide a title for the discussion. So what became of the original Post, may I ask? I am too confused, as the Posts are almost identical to the old website.

I have made some changes to the photographs and my original article.

Also, the period of availability of this model should read 1961 to 1968

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The new/old forum integration happened on Monday and some weirdness was unfortunately inevitable because the two things were so different.   Because the forum was in a barely usable condition, it seemed important to press ahead with the merger and tidy any loose ends in the aftermath.  So you may find a small number of your threads have been split up - but those fragments should all be here somewhere.   Since it's an ongoing discussion, I will try to pull all the bits of this thread together again. I have pulled all the bits together again and updated the title.  

Previously this website had a forum of forums... a great long list of forums, each dedicated to a single model.   So this post was originally made in a forum called "449 Chevrolet El Camino Pick-up Truck, 1961-1969" with the topic title "The story behind the Dinky Toys Chevrolet El Camino".   However, on Monday, I swept that whole forum structure away because it was too sloooooow and so there are now only three forums - British Dinky Toys, French Dinky Toys, and General Topics.   This thread was moved into the new British Dinky Toys forum, keeping the topic title.  Probably I was moving data between posting edits and obviously missed a chunk.

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Posting from Word

If you want to write your postings in Microsoft Word then copy/paste into the forum, use the "Paste from Word" icon in the text editor bar (next to the pair of scissors).