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--80c and 807 and 801 Char A.M.X. 13 tonnes (1958-77)

Several variants of this A.M.X. tank were produced between 1958 and 1977. In 1965 the model got a plastic antenna added to the turret, the catalogue number was omitted on the base plate and the name there then read: '13T. AMX'. Subsequently, the tank got grey nylon tracks, plastic rollers and a no-reference anodized base plate. In 1970 no. 817 expires and it reappears in 1973 as no. 801. A modern box turns up with the well-known later camouflage pattern on top and below. The model is then provided with more and new transfers. It was not until 1977, after being available for almost twenty years in a very variable period, that the A.M.X. was withdrawn from the programme by Meccano France.

Wheel pairs 2, 3 and 4 are dummies, but far more realistic than those of the English Centurion Tank. The slender barrel is bent very often, usually downwards. This phenomenon only begins to manifest itself after years, said to be due to gravity and not due to any error during the casting process.

As Jacques noted, the Char A.M.X. lacks many details, including a spare wheel and track. Also, the headlights are not in the right position and the roundel next to the hole for the driver does not show the correct characteristic detail.

De Char A.M.X., as a light tank, has become a meager counterpart to the massive British Centurion, which weighed more than fifty tons and was much bulkier. It got the Tracteur Berliet et semi-remorque porte-char, as a transport vehicle, Dinky Supertoys No. 890 (designed originally as no. 80h), which was issued in the following year, 1959. The general factory drawing of the tank transporter shows the provisional profile of the A.M.X. sitting on top, suggesting their belonging together.

In 1964 the gun turret of the E.B.R. Panhard, no. 80a/815, was replaced by that of the A.M.X., now also equipped with the later plastic antenna. It had thus become a new model that under the name Panhard FL 10 E.B.R. and catalogue number 827 succeeded the 80a/815. It remained available in that appearance until 1971 – next to the A.M.X. tank for a long period.

The AMX-13 was a French light tank produced between 1953 and 1985. It was named after the designer A.M.X. (Atelier de Construction d'Issy-les-Moulineaux) and had an empty weight of 13 tons, gross almost 15 tons. The AMX-13 had a tough and reliable chassis and was equipped with a so-called hinged turret, built by GIAT Industries, the current Nexter, with a revolver-type magazine. All prototypes and export versions included, more than a hundred variants were made, such as a wheeled gun, anti-aircraft or salvage vehicle, armoured personnel carrier (APC) and anti-tank guided missiles (ATGM) carrier. It served in the French army and has been exported to more than 25 other countries. The total production of the AMX-13 family was about 7,700 units, of which 3,400 were exported. At the time, the Netherlands took 131 units into service for the Royal Netherlands Army, including the AMX-PRI and AMX-PRA. I remember that my uncle, a general deeply involved in the acquisition of those new French tanks, had a tough job on that.

These were some notes from my Dinky collection catalogue. Any additions and corrections welcome! Kind regards, Jan

 

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I have this variant

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                                                                                           Dutch Army A.M.X. with 105 mm. gun

Dear Jan

Having been an AMX driver for six months in Berlin, I know this machine pretty well and I can give you some information for your catalogue.

On the Dinky the aerial is in the wrong place as can be seen from the picture above. I think that I have already explained that anodising is a process, not a finish. Any kind of plating or finish can be done by anodising which is a synonym of electrolysis.
In 1970 the AMX expires in Bobigny but as the phoenix it reappears in 1973 as no. 801 in Calais. All the models packed in the comouflaged boxes were made in Calais after Bobigny closed in 1971. The barrel does bend with time, Meccano should have provided a suporting gear like on the actual tank. This bending can be corrected by resting the end of the gun on anything like a cork with the front of the tracks raised. In several months, the barrel will strengthen.

The roundel next to the driver's cockpit is the grille over the engine ventilator, it should have been made rougher.

The Berliet tank transporter was designed as 80 H but what 80 G would have been ? The 6x6 Dodge which we know has been planed but not issued probably because Solido issued a much better one ?

The turret was not made by GIAT (Groupement Industriel des Armements Terrestres) this company was created in 1971 only by the merging of several armament companies. By this time most AMX had been build with turrest made by Five Lille. The revolver system included two revolvers for six rounds each. When the twelve rounds had been fired, the crew had to get outside the tank to re-load these revolvers or load the shells by hand directly into the breech.

If you need any information about this little model, please ask.