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Hello Ron

Nice to know that you have been able to add two more Dinky Toys catalogues for New Zealand. Now all that is required is for the same good fortune to locate more - earlier than 1953 and between 1956 and 1961, to solve the time frame mystery when unfortunate wee little Kiwis were unable to buy new Dinky Toys!

Hopefully with your help through the publishers, we, the readers, will see a list of catalogues for the New Zealand market included in John Ramsay's British Diecast Model Toys Catalogue one day!

It is an interesting story with Micro Models of Australia and their move across the Tasman. I only had three Micro models but they could never be compared with Dinky Toys, or at least according to this brain when it was far younger!

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I wouldn't hold your breath about Ramsay's.

Some time ago I sent them a list of Trade Boxes not in their listings and they never even replied to me, or amended the listings.

Dave

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Since I happened to locate these yesterday, here is a post regarding Gilbert's one-year distribution of Dinky Toys in the U.S. This is the last four pages of a 48-page booklet illustrating the company's 1963 product lines, which otherwise included Erector sets (not Meccano), chemistry sets, microscopes, and other homegrown toys.

Since Gilbert was in financial trouble, the arrangement only lasted until 1964, at which time Lines Brothers took over U.S. distribution.

I'm sorry the resolution isn't better, but given that these were full-page, it was a struggle to get each within the 800-pixel limit.

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Johnny
Thanks for posting that Gilbert issued Dinky catalog; my, how the range had already dwindled by then! What was the last year that H. Hudson Dobson was listed in the U.S. Catalog as the distributor.....was it 1960?
Regards,
Terry

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In my US catalogues there is a remarkable blank between 1959 and 1962, so I cannot help with an answer, Terry.
As it happened, during my speech at the DTCA dinner, last weekend, I showed i.a. some of the special Dutch Hausemann & H

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Terry and Jan --

The last U.S.A. catalogue with the H. Hudson Dobson imprint was issued in 1959. As a reflection of the disruption to U.S. distribution that then took place, there was no 1960 Dinky Toy catalogue for the U.S. at all (too bad, as those north of the border naturally did get the 1960 edition, whose motorway cover I consider one of the most attractive ever).

A 1961 catalogue for the U.S.A. did appear, but without pricing or distributor information (since, as I wrote earlier, there was no national U.S. distributor at that time).

Those Dutch catalogues are indeed exceptional, with their unique art. As for the Gilbert catalogue, it's obviously just done photographically, but one would like to have been a fly on the wall to watch as the models were arranged on the studio floor.

-- Jon

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Jan

The interesting thing to me about the Hausemann and Hotte catalogues is that the selection is seriously biassed towards the offering from Binns Road rather than the items made in Bobigny.

As someone in the living in the Netherlands at the time did you guys have the same feeling?

Dave

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New catalogues have been added to the publications section today! I'll try to grasp some more of my catalogues, flyers etc. from the discs in the near future and make them available for the website. I hope many others will share their catalogues and other publications too, for the sake of further research into Dinky Toys. 

And, Dave, apparently I somehow missed your observation/request above: yes, French Dinkies were in minority in their programme (also as the range was in fact smaller than the British series), but not neglected! It is remarkable that certain French Dinky Toys were not available to the Dutch market every now and then, possibly because they 'competed' with the ones from Liverpool. Kind regards, Jan

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Hi Jan

Just I sent a scan of the DT Catalogue UK 1954 to Dave Kaun to publish it in the list of catalogues. I promised that, but did not yet find the time to do it. In the next months I shall try to fill up the gaps in the list with the catalogues I have, as much as I can, but it takes much time. I shall do my best. I saw that you added much catalogues, so I have much less to do.wink

Best regards, Jan.

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Jan--As usual, thanks for your ongoing contributions to the site, and especially to these catalogs....they are such a valuable resource.  I noticed that many of the early 1950 French catalogs are not listed.  I have all of them, from 1952 through 1960.....should I submit them?  And how do we do that?  Scan them as a PDF and just send to Dave K.?

      Best regards,  Terry

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Terry if you do the French DT catalogues of 1952-1960 I do the missing 1949-1951 and the lacking between 1960-1971. Then we do not double work.

Best regards, Jan

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Hi Jan and Terry, thanks for your actions and intentions for new contributions to the catalogues collection on the website! Together we can amass a lot of them, for fun and research.

Please, continue to do so! I do not have many catalogues, but I will try to add some more and other PR stuff in the near future. I am now very busy with the completion of my 2010-2015 catalogue supplement (!).

Terry, yes, please, do scan (some of) your French (and other?) catalogues. You can send the pdf files to Dave Kaun. They should not exceed about 60 mb each.

Kind regards, Jan

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Jan--I will do that.....can I assume that scanning them at 200 dpi should be adequate resolution?  I usually do 300 dpi for nice photographs, but that would lead to large files and likely not necessary..........

              Regards,  Terry

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Hi Terry, I sent pdf's based on 300 dpi scans, because I always scan at that resolution for printing quality. But indeed,200 dpi will do as well (perhaps even better!). Kind regards, Jan

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Jan--Yes I will be glad to scan and send all of the French Dinky catalogs from 1952 through 1960, and you can do the others....sounds like a good plan!

                  Regards,  Terry

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Well, I was able to scan & send the 1952 through 1960 French Dinky catalogs to Dave this afternoon, and he has already posted several of them. I will also look at cleaning up the US issues.
Regards, Terry

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I've done the 1949-1951 French and start today with the missing French ones from 1960 onwards. After that I look for the missing Dutch ones.

You did it very quickly. It apparently takes me more time. 

First of all I scann all the pages to a JPEG image. Then I copy the JPEG images into a Word document in landscape format,. Finally I save the Word document as a PDF file. I do also 200 dpi. Is this the correct way to make these PDF files or is there an other way?

Regards, Jan

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Jan, The scanning is not a quick job (if you do it precise). I have about 80% of my catalogues and related stuff scanned already.

I have asked Dave Kaun to advise about the way to scan, convert, upload etc. Kind regards, Jan W

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Hi Everyone.

When you are scanning there should be a setting that allows you to scan to PDF.

There should also be checkbox for scanning all the pages into one document. Mine says "Combine into single document."

I have uploaded a picture of the scanner settings I use. I had to split the picture into two as the original one was being truncated top and bottom.

I hope this is helpful. If not, just ask and I will try a different approach.

Dave

 

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My scanning program simply asks if I have more scans to do, or exit. If I do not exit, it automatically keeps them together in one file. After I scan it also asks how I want to save them......choice of a jpeg type file or pdf, which I choose pdf. Then it asks where you want to save it, which for me is in "my documents". I also decided to use 200 dpi, and the resolution seemed to be fine without creating a huge file. I doubt there is any advantage to using 300 dpi for this use.
Best regards, Terry

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Thanks to the instructions of Dave Kaun and you I have now found a better way to scan the catalogues. That saves me half the time I'd otherwise need.

I now have sent the missing French catalogues to Dave Kaun. Because the French catalogs 1966-1968 can not be scanned, I also send a scan to Dave Kaun of a Meccano Triang Trade catalogue France 1967-1968 (Dinky Toys section).

Best regards, Jan

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Hello,

For the Encyclopædia, I am looking for a scan of page 39 of the Dutch or Swiss 1960 ctalogues showing the 893 Unic Pipe line transporter with the reference 893 / 39b.

Can any one post this ?

Thanks and regards.

Jacques.

 

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Jacques I sent the Dutch 1960 page 39 to you a moment ago (which, by the way, is available under the 'publications' header above too). No Swiss one, perhaps by someone else? Kind regards, Jan 

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Dear Jan,

Many thanks for this scan.

You may have noticed that this page shows the pipe line transporter's pipes without sockets and the reference 39B which was never used on French catalogues or on the boxes because although the model was developed before the 1959 re-numbering, it was issued during this re-numbering with the new 3 digits reference 893.

All the best.

Jacques.

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Jacques, I was 3 days away and could not respond earlier. I have also looked for 893 - 39b images in my catalogues.

Jacques, you wrote to Jan W:

"You may have noticed that this page shows the pipe line transporter's pipes without sockets and the reference 39B which was never used on French catalogues or on the boxes because although the model was developed before the 1959 re-numbering, it was issued during this re-numbering with the new 3 digits reference 893."

What do you mean by "pipes without sockets"? I think you mean that there are no ropes around the pipes (during transport). Is that correct?

I add scans of the 893 out of the Dutch catalogue 1959 and 1960, USA catalogue 1959 and UK leaflet 1961 and 1962 Dinky Toys and Dinky Supertoys from Paris. Remarkable that the export catalogues 1959 Dutch and USA and the UK leaflets 1961 and 1962 shows the 893 with ropes around the pipes. The Dutch 1959 and 1960 and the USA 1959 shows also the dual numbering 893 - 39b. Also a scan of the first image of the 893 as nouveauté in the catalogue France 1959-1 withhout ropes around the pipes and with single numbering. I don't have this example. Did this model came with ropes around the pipes or not?

Kind regards,

Jan Oldenhuis 29-7-2017

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Hello Jan,

Many thanks for your research. Yes the Unic saharien was delivered with elastic bands (ropes) around the pipes.

What I mean by socket is the larger end of the pipes which allow them to be assembled together. None of the caalogues that you have posted above show these sockets but all of them have the white cab roof.

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A nice little 32 page Dutch toy catalogue came along yesterday, including many toys available in Dutch toyshops in 1958. The issuing organisation is called 'Kwaliteits Speelgoed' and the title is 'Speelgoedgids' (= toy guide). Many brands, Dutch and from abroad, have disappeared since, Dinky Toys included, unfortunately. I'll reproduce some pages below, accompanied by some photos of items in my wooden toys and shipmodels collections. Subsequent to the title page and introduction there is a page dedicated to 'Nooitgedagt' wooden toys (c.1940-1970), a small collection of which I have. Dinky Toys are represented by a modest selection of the then current range, featuring the new no. 956 Turntable Fire Escape. Aurora plastic kits have one page too, including aircraft carrier USS Forrestal of 1957 (my example, from an older photoprint, with decals for USS Ranger). Many Aurora ships were to follow in the shipmodels collection. 

The back cover is very interesting, showing the availability of all toy brands listed, specified according to some well-known shops in the cities of Haarlem, adjacent Heemstede, and Amsterdam. Please, have a look at all the brands specified there! I have never seen such an availability list. The shops listed in Haarlem and Amsterdam were very familiar. None of them, however, have survived until the present day, very unfortunately. I have added one shop window photo - posted before - of the last one mentioned, Perry van der Kar. It seems that this catalogue is quite scarce, a little monument of toy history in the Netherlands. 

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Jan, a very nice toy book to see what back then (1958) was sold to toys. Certainly the brands from that time are interesting to know. Very nice if you have examples of that time out of the book to show and your DT 956 is a very beautiful one.

I also have a toy book from 1958 by Meijer & Blessing Rotterdam. This shop still exists and is well known in the region through the sale of trains and trains model construction. This book was published by the Dutch distributor of Dinky Toys: Hausemann & Hötte N.V. Amsterdam, you well known and has 40 pages. There are 4 pages with Dinky Toys, including your DT 956. Also French Dinky Toys in it. I'll show you also pictures of that book.

Jan Oldenhuis 18-10-2017

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A nice one too, Jan! I have that same one, with special memories, as it was donated to me 14 years ago by the Amsterdam Historical Museum (now 'Amsterdam Museum'), when I supplied them with a lot of Dinky Toys for a special commemorative Hausemann&Hotte exhibition in 2003! Kind regards, Jan W 

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Another one here, of October 1955. H&H published these catalogues annually from the later 1940s until well into the 1960s. The pages of Meccano and Dinky Toys here (by the way, they all have been fully uploaded to the 'Publications - catalogues' section, accessible to registered forum members only). 

And I found the poster of the 2003 exhibition. 'Jumbo' was the business name under which the old firm of Hausemann & Hötte operated in later years. Kind regards, Jan W

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