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--23e and 221 'Speed of the Wind' Racing Car (1936-56) (cont...)

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Thanks Jan.

I still haven't told everyone (except Walter) about my other recent pre-war find. I'll get some photos up soon.

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Clamping the initial base plate of an early pre-war example in some more detail:

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With this pre-war addition comparison of base plates in one picture is easy now:

Top > down: 1952-1956, 1938-1952 and 1936-1938.

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Jan, a very nice and interesting comparison of the pre-war base with the post-war one. You will of course immediately see the difference. The large post-war lettering against the small pre-war and the omission of the wheel drive on the post-war because of the lettering. The earliest without name of the model. The latest with model number. I like comparisons like that.

What is also immediately noticeable are the holes in the base of the pre-war and the differences in rivets. I wonder why the holes in the base were needed. Was this perhaps necessary for pressing the wheel drive bulge?

Kind regards, Jan Oldenhuis

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There is another small change to the baseplates of the 23e Speed of the Wind: the prewar-baseplates have those two little "angel wings" behind the differential. The late post-war baseplates (ca. 1948/49) had them omitted, before the new black baseplate was introduced.

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Walter

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Thank you, gentlemen, for your comments.

I presume the holes are for fixing the models during paint spraying, that is, for the models which have base plates in the same colour as the body only.

I had not noticed that angel wings difference before! My two examples without are models with domed axle ends. The others have crimped axle ends.

So I produced an adjusted picture below. Kind regards, Jan 

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My version almost has to be from 1946, and has the angel wings and red baseplate, along with smooth, non-ridged wheels, white tires, and painted driver's face.

     Best regards,  Terry

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An early post-war (1945-46) example not seen here yet: silver, red details, smooth black hubs, white herringbone tyres, white driver with face detail. Base plate, not shown, is silver, with model name and the 'angel wings' behind the differential. 

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Jan--Very nice, and I think this one of yours and mine shown above must be from the same, very early post-war time......1945-1946, as each has the same features.

    Best regards,  Terry

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I agree, Terry, this is the silver brother of your red one, except for the unusual, white finished driver, albeit with the same face detail. Thanks and kind regards, Jan 

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