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Dave-----That little Morris was such a neat little van.......I still need to find the Capstan version.
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Dave----I was meaning to ask you if you have ever seen any pictures of a Big Bedford delivery van, such as Dinky modeled. I have searched on the internet and have never seen one, and none in my book of English trucks. Did they even make one, or was that a Dinky creation?
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That's an interesting question Terry. Let me have a look around and see what I can find.

In the meantime here is one that is almost the same.

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Hi Terry, here is one still around today.

This is NOT MY IMAGE. Please DO NOT USE THIS IMAGE outside this site.

My grandkids live a handful of miles from Barsley and I will track this vehicle down and get a shot of this myself as soon as I can.

This vehicle was one of the earliest Auxilliary Fire Service (AFS) vehicles, with a Hose Layer body and first registered in 1956. This makes it younger than the Dinky version.

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Dave----Thanks......that looks a lot like the Dinky version, complete with the slightly curved top. Thanks, and will hope you can take some photos of your own.
Regards, Terry

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Thanks Dave, a real look-alike. This vehicle demands for the 'correct' finish!

I see a difference in the frame of the driver's seat front window. Is that an opening window?

I dug up another nice combination from  my photo files, the NCB Electric Dairy Van and its short-lived promotional successor, the Job's Dairy Van.

By the way: The headers per individual post seem to have disappeared.

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Yes, the Bedford drivers window is hinged at the top and it can be opened a small amount to allow some cooling air inside on a hot day.

Dave

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Some Americana to add to this utterly fascinating thread.

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Dave

Just noticed your 257 Fire Chief's Car above.  With its white tyres, are the hubs spun hubs or the uncommon silver cast hubs?

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Hello Bruce

Looking at them closely I believe they are silver cast. This is the image for January on my 2016 Calendar.

Dave

 

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Dave

I thought so!  You have a very uncommon example and top marks to you. Two images of my 257 with cast silver hubs are below. The model arrived late last year, and the box, appropriate for this model has been in my collection since 2004 - just waiting for this model!!

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Dave---Very nice pairing of two American cars nears nearing the end of their production life, and those are beautiful examples for sure......nice!
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All the variants ... I think !

Am I in the right thread ? I don't knowfrown

 

 

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Yes, you have all the combinations - except for one additional 257 Canadian Fire Chief's Car!

Here it is: Normal casting except for its wheels. Cast silver, identical to that used for the Porsche in red and AC Aceca in brown and cream, 405 Universal Jeep plus the 259 Fire Engine.

Most 257 with cast silver hubs that have been sighted in recent years have been shod with white tyres.

 

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Dave--Your comment about that folding open window on the Bedford reminded me that my own 1930 Model A Ford has a similar feature; the whole flat windshield is hinged at the top and opens varying amounts and can be locked in place. It actually works quite well when driving......an early sort of air conditioning!
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You are absolutely right Terry, the military Bedfords we had were earlier than the one shown above. Not only did they not have the opening window they also did not have a heater in the cab. I think the Ministry of Defence (MOD) considered those things were a waste of money.

Its a great pity that they were sat in a nice warm office in Whitehall and not in North Germany. We absolutely cooked in summer and froze our nuts off in winter, worse, was the the condensation froze on the INSIDE of the windows and we could not see where we were going at all.

Happy days!!!!

Despite all this I do genuinely look back on those times with warm affection, I still have lots of mates and we stick together now, just as we did then.

Dave

 

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Here is another interesting combination, or cousins of sorts:  The English made Austin Atlantic and the French produced Simca 8 Sports.  These were both nicely made models of contemporary sporting convertibles, made in the early 1950's.  The Austin was produced somewhat earlier, then the Simca, but in each case, they were their factory's first effort at having a complete interior detailing, along with a dashboard.  They both also were first to have a diecast metal windscreen frame.....everything prior had the flimsy thin plastic, or thin rigid sheetmetal.  An interesting detail of the Austin, pointed out to me many years ago, is that its door, trunk, and hood lines are recessed instead of raised.  If you look at your other 1950's era Dinky's, you will find all of them with raised edges.  The Simca, on the other hand, did use the raised edge, but many of the French models soon went to the recessed version....interesting!

                    Regards,  Terry

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Hi Terry, I managed to copy a very old short article of mine (June 2005) on the TalkModelToys webforum to this text frame. Here it is, a provisional overview of 'firsts' and other special features of the Austin Atlantic. I will try to copy it to the specific Austin Atlantic topic too.

"From the notes in my documentation I can give some ‘firsts’, ‘only’s’ and ‘specials’ about this model, as the 1950s Dinky range is concerned:

• In spite of all shortages on the metal market, this model was issued in the very difficult and disappointing year 1951, no less than two years after the completion of its design drawings!
• The diecast windscreen frame is very unusual, instead of the comprehensive moulded clear polystyrene windscreens like the ones on the 131 Cadillac and the 132 Packard (but in many respects analogous to the French Simca 8 cabriolet no. 24s/534 which was introduced one year later, in 1952).
• Possibly this is the Dinky showing a maximum of colour variations during its production period, at least twelve. A colour scheme and table of variations is given by José F. Heraud in Model Collector 12/5 (May 1998) p. 18, and of course the Christie’s auction catalogue of the Remy-Meeus collection (24 September 2001, pp. 61-62) shows and describes a stunning number of variations.
• Until the 1960s the only and earliest Dinky which was designed with recessed instead of the usual protruding detailing lines of doors etc.
• The period Dinky with the most extensive silver detailing.
• The first truly post war British Dinky convertible.
• The diecast dash board detailing, even showing a radio, is unprecedented.
• A regular 1950s Dinky open car, but without the later so familiar driver (compare the regular sports cars of the 1950’s, the Cadillac, the Packard). Of course the American market oriented MG Midget Sports, no. 129 was also without a driver.
• The only regular British Dinky Toy in the 1950s which featured smooth white tyres (on the black one, far more were used on French Dinkies of that period).
• One of the few 3-digit + 1 letter numbered Dinky Toy cars.
• The American market orientation of this model (and its real world prototype) was also expressed by the later number 106, which was an extension of the 100-105 range, the earlier 38-series sports cars, but now, in the early fifties, only available on the American market (Dinky Toys & Modelled Miniatures, p. 223). By the way, these later 38-series sports cars (with their coloured hubs) were also available in The Netherlands, at least until 1952 but possibly later. "

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Jan---Very nice writeup on the Austin Atlantic, and all the special attributes that little model has. Pretty amazing that there are so many special items associated with it. Regarding the raised detail lines, I have never heard much discussion about them, or why the Atlantic was singled out to try them. I think Jacques, on his CD, mentions that the original drawing, which is in the GB of DT, even shows those lines as raised and makes no mention at all about them being changed to recessed. A very interesting anamoly! A very nice article Jan.
Regards, Terry

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A military combination.

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A very nice display of the two field gun units, nicely positioned. When I was a youngster, many, many years ago, the older one was a favorite play toy. I liked the tracks and also the way you could connect and unhook the pieces.
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Terry,

The raised and recessed lines have been discussed on TMT a long time ago.

Recessed lines are difficult to make with the master model and pantograph method. Recessed lines were probably introduced when Meccano switched from the pantograph method to the spark erosion method.

Jacques.

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Meccano Magazine introductions of January 1950 combined.

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Jan--Nicely done, showing the original Meccano Magazine article introducing these three models, followed by a very nice photo.....a most interesting combination for sure!  In reading the article, it is interesting that they discuss the new Guy Van in general terms, without mentioning at all the "Slumberland" livery.  It just mentions that there will be several versions, all featuring well-known firms.

       Regards,  Terry

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Indeed, the 'Slumberland' served as an example for the whole series to be issued. The shared number 514 for the early ones underlines the general approach. Nevertheless, this livery is considered to be first issue, even slightly earlier than January 1950 as the previous MM issue of December 1949 introduces the trio discussed as 'new, ready during the month' already.

I wrote an article about the 'Slumberland' some five years ago. It was in the 'articles' section of the previous website, but I'm not sure if I can find it here. It was published in The Journal, anyway. Kind regards, Jan

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Greetings

The releases shown in the Meccano Magazine for January 1950 are in fact the releases that were ready for Christmas 1949. The advertisement that appeared in the January 1950 MM are not indicated as "NEW", whereas the advertisement in the December 1949 MM has them shown as "NEW".

On the subject of Inspection stamps, I have found two 514 Slumberland in their boxes with the inspection stamp of Nq 11 9 (November 1949) and many (about six in total with the stamp of "Nq 12  9" ( December 1949) which is perhaps conclusive that the model and the other two were indeed ready for little boys for Christmas 1949.

While I have everyone's attention, these days, magazines are published early. For example, the December 2015 issue is out in the first week or two of November. Can anyone tell me if the same was applicable back in the 1940s, 1950s etc? In other words, was the December 1949 Meccano Magazine available in early November rather than early December? 

Bruce  (#150)

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Hi Bruce.

No, this seems to be a fairly recent phenomenon. I remember the Meccano magazine coming out exactly on the 1st of the month, or later if the 1st happened to fall on a Sunday. It was also sold by dealers and they were under strict instructions to keep it under wraps until the 1st of the month.

Dave

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Thanks Dave - most appreciated.  As for this modern fad, I find it quite ridiculous. Next thing we will pick up the January 2017 magazine in January 2016! cheeky

The reason I asked the original question, is out here In Australia, we were lucky if the latest issue of Meccano Magazine arrived two MONTHS after the publication date!!  Invariably it was a three months wait and we often saw new Dinky Toy releases before th arrival of The Magazine! The same with EAGLE - we were always so far behind everyone else with the adventures of Dan Dare!!

Bruce

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Here is another nice pairing or combination.....the two French Berliet Trucks.  These mid-1950's trucks certainly had a distinctive design, unlike any other, but they also made very nice models, with the two that Dinky modeled.  I think that this was also the first time that Meccano used real dual wheels and tires on any of their trucks......and what an improvement that was!

       Regards,  Terry

 

 

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Hello Terry

Great combination!  I think Meccano forgot all about us fellow members of the British Commonwealth as we never saw these wonderful dual rear wheel Dinky trucks. In fact we never saw anything from the French factory! Apparently Australia was too insignificant to worry about that small remiss!

Never mind - now that I am well into my second, or is it third childhood, I have made up for that unforgiveable omission!

Bruce (from the land Meccano forgot!) #150

4 December 2015

PS

I think these make a wonderful combination, and that dump truck - Wow!

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