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I wonder if there is any use left for me to continue contributing to the forum. My only drive is the sheer enthusiasm for the Dinky Toys hobby, and to mutually share our enthusiasm, knowledge, news, pictures etc. here. But as the forum seems to be almost deserted at present, this appears to turn out to be a one-way traffic.

My enthusiasm for Dinky Toys will always remain, but my limitless optimism for this site and forum to become a success, with many members contributing and exchanging information, is severely put to the test. Where is everyone? (127 registered users!).

Well, this is probably my final try not to enjoy a lovely new addition on my own, but to share it with others:  


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Jan, do not be discouraged. Many of us are tapering off our new acquisitions due to lack of space or age, and in any case no one else can match up to you in your dual talents for photographing and cataloguing models, but that does not mean we're not out here appreciating what you do.

That Foden is a real beauty!

To my mind, the ultimate Dinky forum/resource may never exist, but if I were a programmer, I would try to create it. It would be a version of Jacques' Dinky Encyclopedia, but available online instead of just on a disk, and for each model there would be a comment thread allowing users to append comments and additional information.

Anyhow, know that few of us can emulate your contributions, but with each post you are sharing joy -- so please don't stop.

 


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Hi Jan.

Your Foden is wonderful. I have this model but without box. and yours is more "new" than mine !

Since my last post on march the 28th, I went on the forum almost everyday, there was no activities !

Perhaps, all the members are travelling all around the world wink , looking for some sunny springtime !cool

Cheers

Richard


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A recent acquisition is this 661 Recovery Tractor - a later version with plastic wheels, hook and driver. There is the date B57 inside the box lid. There are several differences with the earlier versions:

1) There is a washer on the end of the winding rod.

2) The driver is in a lower position.

3) The tyres are narrower.

4) The paint finish has a slight sheen compared with the matt finish of earlier versions.

This is one of my favourite military Dinkys and I think it captures the look of the real vehicle really well.

Chris.


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Thanks, Jon and Richard, for your encouragements, much appreciated, and Chris for your new contribution.

As soon as I have better photos available I will post them in the 501 thread.

Remarkable, Chris, those final adjustments to the Recovery Tractor. The washer and the narrow tyres were new to me. Also remarkable that the handle still retains its (plastic) grip, whereas this was removed from i.a. later versions of the Coles Lorry Mounted Crane and related items. Kind regards, Jan 


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Jan, don't stop, please! Love to read your comments. I will try to be more ambitious and I'll start with this bus that completely fooled me at a local flea market. I havn't got the original bus in white and red but I knew about it, of course. This withe/yellow version was new to me, though, and I thought I had found a rare one! Impossible to see that it was a repaint! Still can't.
French Dinky 541 Petit car Mercedes (1963-1971)
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Wow, Jan, your comment on the generally poor respone (on which I have to agree) has stirred-up the kettle. Hope it will last.
I am really missing Jacques contributions, answers and sometimes challenging comments. This is how it should be, I think. Let's hope he will soon join us again like in the past.
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Hello Jan,

Well please continue your excellent articles and contributions to the Forum. These are very apriciated and despite I just collect pre war Dinky's, I read them all. From my own contributions to The Journal I know how much work it is and one hardly get respons. There are not many collectors who take the efforts for research and writing. So your work and the few others are keeping the interest alive. Most of the just technical books like Richardson, Roulet, Atlas, Wagner/Dujardin cannot provide recent or new information. For that we have to rely on contributions like yours.

Now just members have the possibility to contribute to the Forum. Maybe it is a idea that non members can take part to discussions after registration, see Planet Diecast. Of course some advantages must just be for paying members.

Meanwhile I will continue my articles for The Journal and try  to be more active at the Forum if my limited time allows it.

John.


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Jan

when you wrote these words,

I wonder if there is any use left for me to continue contributing to the forum. My only drive is the sheer enthusiasm for the Dinky Toys hobby, and to mutually share our enthusiasm, knowledge, news, pictures etc. here. But as the forum seems to be almost deserted at present, this appears to turn out to be a one-way traffic.

My enthusiasm for Dinky Toys will always remain, but my limitless optimism for this site and forum to become a success, with many members contributing and exchanging information, is severely put to the test. Where is everyone? (127 registered users!).

Well, this is probably my final try not to enjoy a lovely new addition on my own, but to share it with others:  

I know exactly how you feel.  It is somewhat surprising seeing how many have joined the DTCA and how few actually contribute to the Association's website.  I know only too well contributing to this website is both enjoyable as well as damned frustrating.  One spends literally hours preparing a detailed and thoroughly researched Post such as one I Posted last November, and then download what one has written, attach the appropriate photographs, and after a considerable time, click on the save button.  One then starts wondering what the reaction would be, especially when a new piece of Dinky information is brought to light.  Then comes the disappointment - not a single comment - just silence as was and still is the case with that Post in November.  The number of "hits" continues to go up, but this is most likely the number of times I have gone back to my Post to read over and over again, what I had written that deserved this silence. Perhaps I should go back and delete it for what it is worth!!

Actually last November, I decided I had had enough, judging on the lack of comments on many of my recent posts that I should quietly fade away. But then in February I received a private email from a very caring and considerate member from California that I realised that someone did care, and he brought me back from the Dark Side.

There, I have written things that have been on my mind for months - maybe i will regret having written this, but then I can see how Jan feels and I would like him to know that he is not Robinson Crusoe.

But that 501 Foden - what a splendid addition to your collection! And worthy of a well-taken photograph!

Here is mine - not in the same league I am afraid!

But one of my latest acquisitions, actually it arrived on 12 January 2016, is the 174 Hudson Hornet Sedan in red and pale cream that came with an application form for the original Meccano Dinky Toys Club. But that is not the end of the story.

On 5 January 2017, I collected a parcel from one of my UK auction friends, and one of the Dinky Toys inside was a 174 Hudson Hornet Sedan in yellow and grey - complete with a Dinky Toys Club application form!  I must get around to photographing that new acquisition, and one with both Hornets. Both models are in absolute mint condition as too are their boxes. 

There, started this Post with a gripe and ended with a grin!

Chin up Jan - I look forward to many more Posts from you, and if we stay a small nucleus of writers for this website, so be it!

Kind regards to you all

Bruce H.   (150)

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Thank you all for your sincere and positive comments, here and in my mailbox. They will certainly help me regaining my optimism towards the future of this forum! Kind regards, Jan 


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These two items arrived a few days ago - a post-war 30b Rolls Royce and a post-war 39a Packard Super 8 Tourer.

The Rolls-Royce was produced between 1947 and 1950. This particular model, painted in gray with black mudguards, running boards and chassis, has tyres with a small tread pattern. It is in excellent condition with just a few small paint chips.

The Packard Super 8 Tourer, made between 1947 & 1950, is also in excellent condition, again with just a few small paint chips.

They add to my collection of immediate post-war Dinkys.

Chris.


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Hi Chris, wonderful additions you scored! As the Rolls Royce is concerned, I made a similar acquisition last year. It was a lot of two post-war no. 30b RR's, both in grey, in slightly different shades. I had the intention to sell one of them, until they arrived and I noticed that the bases were different. The lighter grey one has an earlier open chassis, the darker grey one is fitted with a later closed chassis. Still, a dilemma, as the lighter grey one shows some slight retouches, which I don't like, so that one may have to leave after all. Kind regards, Jan 


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Chris----Splendid Dinky Toys models, from right after WWII. The 30 and 39 series are two of my personal favorites, and include some very nice motorcars from the pre-war era. I have both of these, in the exact same colors. Considering their age, yours are in quite nice condition, and add nicely to your collection. Congratulations on a nice find!
Best regards, Terry


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Hi all,

The last two months I found some rarities, that I would like to share with you.

First is a 157 Jaguar XK120 in cream with yellow hubs. I placed it alongside the more common cream with fawn hubs to show the difference. I know there is a cream version with cream hubs, but I have not seen this yellow hub version before. I comes from the gentleman selling Dinky Toys from his grandfathers train layout, from whom I bought before.

 


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Second is a 111 Triumph TR 2 Sports in pink with red hubs and a red interior. The hub and interior colour of the turquoise or light blue model. Again a first for me. I was very lucky to spot it on eBay minutes after the seller, Andrew Clark, put it on there. I used the Buy it Now button without much thinking!

Kind regards,

Rob

 


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All very nice, and oh, so rare Rob! Very nice adds to your impressive collection.....congrats on spotting them.
Best regards, Terry


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Hello Rob

So it was YOU who bought this Triumph TR2!  I saw it on eBay too, but then I did a terrble thing, for me that is!  I went to check all my variations, and found a similar one had been sold back in 1998 or so. So went back to eBay, and could not find the auction.  The first time I never looked at the name of the seller. Had I done so, I would have seen my old friend Andrew Clark from whom I bought many Dinky Toys before the arrival of eBay and I would have lodged my buy-it-now bid.  Andrew used to send me his latest price list in the mid-1990s and invariably, the time-distance between the UK and Australia meant that many on my selection had already gone by the time my order arrived. Then we moved to a fax machine - though that was great until the Internet arrived and eBay came!

But then I could not wish for the model and box to go to a more worthy collector. Congratulations!!  Next time I will not be so cautious!

I have added another French Dinky Toys to my collection, but this one has been in two parts.  The box from Vectis last year and the Berliet plus moo cows from Collectoys, the latter was collected from the post office this morning. I have always hoped to acquire a 577, but the prices being asked for a boxed model has been out of my reach, so the best course of action was to acquire a box and then wait for a model with the cows to become available. I did not think such would come up so soon!

Congratulations Rob on acquiring that 111 Triumph. A great acquisition to a great collector.

Kind regards

Bruce H.   (150)

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Bruce----Very nice addition there, and one I am not familiar with, so it was most interesting to see. Those cows are actually pretty nice. And a great story getting the box and model separately.......nice going!
Best regards, Terry


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Hello Bruce and Terry,

 

Thanks for your kind words. And nice to know, Bruce, that you spotted the Triumph as well. You  mention that a similar Triumph was sold around 1998. Was that by Vectis?

Nice addition the Berliet! It proves that it can be worthwhile byuing box and model seperately. I do not collect French made Dinky Toys, but some of the models, like this one, are very nice. 

Kind regards,

Rob

PS I did buy a French Dinky Toy recently, for two special reasons. I will post it later.


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For better or worse, it's not all rarities here. Two old shop-stock models arrived separately: this late McClaren, and a Triumph Spitfire. I had the Triumph already, but not with the "I've Got a Tiger In My Tank" sticker. Now if only I could find the purple version at a reasonable price.

Bruce, that was long-term thinking indeed -- collecting an empty box and then finding the model to go with it. What were the odds of finding the Berliet complete with cows that happened to be mint, but without box?

The only Dinky Toy I would completely refuse to collect is the "Slipper and the Rose" coach!

 


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Wow, it's rush hour as new arrivals is concerned! I heard of Rob's curiosities at the Houten Fair already, and by telephone. Always new surprises in the field of deviating colour schemes! 

Bruce, no doubt - like me - you would prefer to have a model and box that seem to have always belonged together. But this solution and happy coincidence is wonderful for you. I once swapped boxes for my two Simca's Cargo. The 'Bailly' is my childhood toy (well, my brother's), of which the box did not survive the frequent unpacking and repacking after play. Half a century later, in 2009, I bought the plain green/orange predecessor, no. 33A, but with the wrong 33AN box. Then I started searching for a correct 33A box, which I found not many months later. So I combined the 'Bailly' and the 33AN box, and provided the 33A with the newly acquired correct 33A box. 

Today I was happily surprised with the arrival of a blue/cream Simca Versailles and a grey Traction Avant. They are real beauties, a welcome addition to the 'French Corner' in my cabinets. Kind regards, Jan 


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Jan--  Nice to see that you are adding to your French Dinky automobile collection, and those two are nice examples.  Early on, when I was just a youngster, I discovered French Dinky Toys, and became enamored of them....they were always slightly different than their English cousins.  I have both models, in the exact same colors.  The Citroen was always a favorite of mine, and I first had a black one, bought new around 1956 from a local store.  In 1959, I was hunting for some new Dinky's with my collector friend, and we had driven quite a ways from home, to a small toy store in San Diego.  There we found several nice examples, including a beautiful grey version.  I had never seen this color before, and loved it, so I quickly bought it.  A bonus was in came in a trade box......and back then, I had never even seen a trade box before, so I was delighted.  This particular Dinky has remained a lifelong favorite, and would be in my top 10 favorites.  Despite over 57 years of ownership, and being displayed all that time, it has remained nearly mint, with those white tires now being a bit grubby.  It also is a superb casting, and a very accurate model of the real 11BL.  Congratulations on those nice acquisitions!

 

 

 


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Hi all,

Very nice models, Jan! You definitely show that specialising in collecting as mint as possible models and boxes can be done and is worthwhile!

And the models are French Dinky Toys, giving me a good opportunity to fulfill the promise I made in my last post.

As I mentioned before, I do not collect French Dinky toys. I did buy one recently however, a dark red South African 519 Simca 1000. I added my old toy, a red Simca 1000 on an also recently found box, to show the colour difference.   

Why did I buy this French Dinky Toy?

First of all, it is assembled and painted in South Africa, so not really French. As it is very difficult to find South African Dinky Toys, I welcome any South African Dinky Toy in my collection. I only managed to find twelve sofar.

The second reason is much more sentimental. My first car was a Simca 1000, and my second car as well. Also my father owned one in the sixties. And my mother in the seventies, so some dear memories for me there!

I included a picture of the base plates, to show the difference in the rivets used.

The dark red model has been a real traveller. It started in France in parts, went to South Africa to be sold after assembly and painting, then it travelled to the UK were it was bought by a French gentleman who took it to France and then I bought it, so it went to the Netherlands. Your guess is as good as mine,where the model will go next.

I know there is a turquoise SA Simca 1000 waiting for me somewhere. When I find it, I will surely post it!

Kind regards,

Rob 


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Rob----With your absolutely wonderful Dinky collection, have you decided not to collect the French versions solely as a way of limiting the scope and scale of your collection? If so, I can understand that, as we all somewhat need to put limits on what we collect. For me, at least, the French made some very nice and charming models, and almost always with their own little touches.
Best regards, Terry


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Thanks, Terry and Rob. In fact the photo shows two 'generations' of French Dinky Toys. The post-1959 French Dinky American cars on top were our firm favourites as a child. The small rectangular black backgrounds on the display texts indicate that they are models of my childhood period, not later additions. They were flashy, 'cool' modern cars, with windows, most with suspension, which we (my brother and me) appreciated and cherished very much.

When I resumed collecting Dinky Toys, about fifteen years later, I went back to 'basics', all pre-1960, without windows and other disturbing features, and restricted to the British made Dinky Toys. I approached the verge of French Dinky Toys again around 2000, when I became fascinated by the British ones assembled in France. Subsequently I slowly passed the border to pure French Dinky Toys again, and they are now have (almost) equal attention in collecting, but, not later than 1959 (old numbers only, no concave hubs, no windows etc.). Kind regards, Jan 


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Hello Terry,

You are right. I decided to collect English made Dinky Toys to limit both the scope and size of my collection. I fully agree that the French factory produced many nice models. I enjoy the posts on this Forum for all Dinky Toys!

Even with the limitation my collection has outgrown my cabinet space.  I try now to limit my purchases to scarce or rare models, colours and variations only. Including pre war and sometimes Nicky Toys.

As we are on colours and variations, after I bought the mid blue Austin Atlantic with mid blue hubs, which I posted in December, I recently found a dark blue model. It is not repainted. It could be the model described as deep blue in Ramsay's catalogue, next to the mid blue models. But I would not call it deep blue, but dark blue. Anyway, here are two pictures of it, one alongside a more common light blue Austin Atlantic.  

Kind regards,

Rob

 


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NIce one Rob - the deep blue/dark blue Austin Atlantic.  Can you post a picture of its base please?

This is my mid-blue example that I picked up in Sydney, many moons ago.

The full length chassis front axle support confirms this model as a 140a.

Kind regards

Bruce

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Hello Bruce,

Here is a picture of the base plate of the dark blue Atlantic. It shows short front axle supports, for comparison a pink Atlantic with full length axle support is shown alongside.

The dark blue Atlantic comes from the large train lay.out owned by the grandfather of the seller. Sofar I bought 34 Dinky Toys from this seller, including some rare variations. The grandfather was a railway enigineer, who also worked in South Africa and Rhodesia during the fifties. He died in the seventies and the Dinky Toys spend 40 years in boxes on a loft.

The dark blue Atlantic could be a colour trial. Could even be South African. The only thing I know for sure that it is not repainted.

Kind regards,

Rob

 

 


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These models arrived this week, but they are the straws that have broken the camel's back! They'll just be sitting around in the open until I find some way to organise another display case. (At least all my Dinky Toys are in a small room that no one but me tends to enter.)

 


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Johnatan, I specially like the MGyes

Rob, I never seen this colour variation before !surprise None of my books shows a photo of this dark blue Austin ! Is it a colour try ?

We always find a "surprise" with Dinky Toys !

Richard

 

 


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