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Jacques, thank you for your comments above.

Bruce, what you relate sounds quite terrifying -- either a medical procedure you underwent, or a nightmare from the Twilight Zone. Either way, no one (not even a wife!) could begrudge you obtaining more Dinky Toys to celebrate your survival.

I have never seen a Rover like that. If genuine, it is something special!

Please share pictures of the other models you have purchased too.

While there is life, there is Dinky Toys!!

Cheers,
Jonathan

 

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Greetings Jonathan

Delighted to receive your response, but I am not game to try it on my wife, as she would give me such a tongue lashing, that....!

The room with the multiple lights was actually a total of three procedures and a "let's have a look and laugh at what we find" procedure. Firstly the main heart-valve, then a double hernia (caused through lifting too many cartons containing Dinky Toys!) and the juicy one, prostate cancer! The final "incident" was collapsing last Christmas night becoming unable to move or speak but well aware of what was going on and the phone calls to emergency. I came out of that one after about 5 minutes, although the silence from me during that time must have been very welcome by the family! Turned out I had developed a CCM over many years. Cerebral Cavernous Malformation - in other words, I have a dark mass in the centre of my brain, the dark mass being "old blood". Any operation on that has one outcome - a fall off the perch! Just a case of keeping an eye on it through regular MRIs. I was asked about my medical history, any traumas to my head etc. Couldn't have the heart to mention the number of times Someone has whacked me on my head to keep me in line!!)  :) :)

But back to THAT Dinky Toy. The model is totally genuine as nothing has been done with the rivets to enable a change of the front wheels, the rear wheels have not had anything done to them and the interior, that looks a pale blue is actually the overspray of the cream.

The model cost me an arm and one of my legs, so I do not know who my competitor was but he/she knew what he/she was bidding. I just outlasted the bugger!! (Excuse my English!) 

I will get around to sharing with everyone the others I purchased that Sunday afternoon.

Kind regards

Bruce

2021/1608/1317/1223

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Hi Bruce, good to see you back despite all this health misery!

I believe that there was always a huge stock of generally applicable red wheels available in the factory, for IF the correct colours happened to be unavailable, as the majority of the deviating wheel colours seem to be red. Kind regards, Jan 

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Hi Bruce,

I am glad to see you back on line. I was wandering about you.

The Rover with red hubs is listed in the Encyclopaedia. The cream Rover has been fitted with cream, green, maroon, red or mid blue hubs. Any other ?

In the GBDT Mike does not describe the hubs, only the body colours.

Do take care.

Jacques

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Bruce .. as Jan and Jacques have well said, we are delighted to have heard from you. The medical issues you have endured are firghtening, but fortunately it is well-known that Dinky Toys have curative properties. The solidity, the distinctive smell of metal and rubber, the unique sound of the axles shifting as the model is picked up (which has a soothing effect similar to a cat's purr), all are known to be conducive to life extension!

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Greetings John

Well the three operations have been done and dusted since 1 August 2019. The final one though is a real doozie - a CCM (Cerebral Cavernous Malformation) plus some major arteries inside the brain are suspect! The CCM is non-operative and the last is being treated with medication aimed at cholesterol treatment despite my cholesterol being in good shape. 

Still there are a whole lot of folk throughout the world who are going through hell at this time. Even down here in Australia, the Delta variant is showing its impact mainly through folk not adhering to instructions about isolating. It is unfortunate that some of these are from countries who came here for a better life away from totalitarian regimes and most likely do not appreciate being told what to do or are missing out through language.

I am very pleased with the Rover and thank you for your compliments - most appreciated. Although the Dinky Encyclopedia has all these different hubs, I go on what appears in Ramsays as well as from auctions and in my mind, this one is scarce, that is for certain. 

My wife and I were planning a trip to the UK this year bringing with me a large container with most of my duplicate collections. I decided that I must divest my collection with the exception of those I had as a young fellow  (these are intended to go to my grandson) but the remainder includes some very nice models, an Airmail Service Car, De Sotos, all six of those, 175 with all six as well, (yes, just when someone thinks there are only two of each colour!) to start with. I am not certain what I will do now, although the option is open for me to sell direct to members of the DTCA. Hopefully I have the time to sort it all out!! 

Thanks again for your nice Post.

Bruce

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Some lovely new arrivals of the past period. I'm very happy with Roger Bailey's book about the English buses and coaches. A job he started thirty years ago, the result is stunning. Loaded with information in words and images ..., many previously unknown. My big compliments to Roger!

The others are virtually mint boxed models, some new, some quality improvements and replacements, like the Austin Champ (no. 674), the earliest version with the driver's arms spread. The French Simca Cargo (no. 33a) is the 'A' cab/chassis type version. A photo added of both A (left) and B (right) types.

The farm models are all the latest, end 1960s versions. The Harvest Trailer (no. 320) has rather uncommon red (in stead of yellow) racks. The Manure Spreader (no. 321), also with yellow plastic wheels, shows the new box design, as does the the white edition of the Disc Harrow (no. 322), which has the changed, straight draw bar, to match the new white David Brown tractor (no. 325 of 1967) properly. The Manure Spreader without the previous brand name decals. The last appearance of this trio in the 1970 Dinky Toys catalogue. Kind regards, Jan 

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Lovely acquisitions, Jan!

Here are mine from this week -- one expensive import and then some very ecomonical acquisitions from U.S. sellers. The postwar 28 van is a casting that has not yet been reinforced to have the loudspeaker fitted to the roof.

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A nice set indeed, Jonathan. The lower in the picture listing the simpler and the better (my tastewink). Buying imports is an expensive business nowadays. I bought all but one in France and the Champ in the Netherlands. No extra VAT or import duties and low mail costs for all. The book of Roger Bailey is really cheap. 25.00 GBP only for 150 pages in hard cover and delightful contents. Good value for money. Kind regards, Jan 

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Could someone e-mail me Roger Bailey’s e-mail adress ?

Thanks and regards.

Jacques

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Jacques, I have just done so, cordialement, Jan 

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Thank you Jan

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These new Dinkys all arrived this month (plus one Norev interloper) and I was too indolent to photograph each separately. But here at the garage, fuel is a problem, so the military has been called in to supply a tanker, and the police to keep order ...

 

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Looking at the familiar old traffic jam it seems that many have abandoned working at home by now. It strikes me that Dinky models of the 1970s, like the Austin Allegro and the Rover, 40-50 years later by far do not match the prices which their 1940-1950s brothers fetched after the same 40-50 years. A very nice bunch of additions after all, Jonathan.

Does the garage also belong to the newcomers? An attractive shape it has. French origin? I have a more than average interest in toy garages at this moment, since a friend of mine and I intend to compile a booklet on this subject ....

Kind regards, Jan 

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I was just speaking to another collector friend yesterday about how relative time becomes as we age. When I first became a somewhat-informed Dinky collector (after Cecil Gibson's book was first released), the prewar models shown seemed impossibly ancient, since I was ten years old and prewar vehicles had disappared both in full-size and toy form. Yet the Dinkys were only about 30 years old at most! Now, here were are with Binns Road having closed 42 years ago next month, yet the last Dinkys produced still seem "modern."

Some of the latecomers however are now far from cheap. The Austin Princess Police Prototype and GMC Tanker shown in my montage above are cases in point.

Jan, you are right that the garage is also a newcomer. I do not collect such things as a rule (no room) but this one turned up at a reasonable price from a U.S. seller who had had it since he was a boy. Still with its original box, it had come from the famous Marshall-Field department store in Chicago, which was also a loyal source of DInky Toys throughout the years.

This particular garage was made by MGF. I will love to see your booklet on toy garages. In the meantime you and others may enjoy this nicely illustrated website picturing many: http://www.autoboite.fr/garages/garages.php. It seems that over the years, the French enjoyed the very best toy garages ...

 

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And then there are the garages made by Triang Minic from 1936. These photos are all taken from the book "The Minic Book" by Peter Bartok, published by New Cavendish Books, 1987. These are just a selection of photos,  there are a lot more.

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Those are all lovely items, though to my mind Triang -- along with Lesney and many other makers -- marred its garages by emblazoning its trademark on them, which made them unrealistic. The French garages almost never had that problem.

That said, the Triang Tower garage is my absolute holy grail. It combined parts from various Triang castles with pumps sourced from Binns Road. I would love to see one of these sets and to know whether the pumps retained the Dinky trademark on the bottom.

 

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Jon--All very nice acquisitions!  Especially one of my favs.....that Panhard "Kodak" articulated truck...from the little glimpse it looks very nice....how about some more of that one?
   And I agree about the prices of later Dinky's....from what I have seen, many seem to be selling for higher prices, while run of the mill 1950's models have gone down from past highs.  I also really like that garage....it is begging for a proper diorama!
       Best regards, Terry

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Terry, thanks for the kind comments as always. The Kodak truck is very nice but I believe it to be partly touched up/restored. I only bought it to add to my fleet since the model is an all-time favorite. I already have two others, plus a Dan Toys replica. I guess I'm dreaming of a Kodak diorama ...

 

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Jon--Speaking of a Kodak fleet, I couldn't remember if you also had that wonderful Dan Toys/Atlas combo truck/trailer/trailer?  Am guessing you do.....here is mine just for reference.  You can never have too much of a good thing!

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Yes, but of course I do!

if I ever do a diorama, this replica would join in too!

 

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The Houten Fair, yesterday, was getting back to 'normal' again, with fewer visitors and stand holders than before the pandemic, but considerably more than in summer. Very lively, like before, and a big social reunion for many collectors since 1.5 year. Unfortunately, the British dealers and visitors seemed to be absent, but quite some from continental European countries were present again.

I sold quite some replaced Dinky's and bought one fine Dinky model in return, the French no. 25b Peugeot D.3.A in the early 'Lampe Mazda' livery. It was the first French Dinky to be sold in an individual box and it was advertised in the French 1953 catalogue only.

In the mean time I could not let a Russian tinplate garage go, all complete with its colourful box and the individually boxed toy cars. For 20 euros only, and of course to be included in the growing garage booklet. Kind regards, Jan   

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Jan---Glad to hear the fair is getting back to normal, and that found some very nice items.  That Peugeot van is lovely, and the garage is very nice.

    Best regards,  Terry

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Jan, we in the States can only look on in envy regarding things such as Toy Fairs -- basically non-existent here -- and the chance to meet other collectors. Nice acquisitions, too -- that garage is particuarly jolly!

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Three new arrivals today

1. 22f tank. This is the early (1933-34) Hornby Series version. This is a companion to my later (1935-1940) all grey version.

2. 22c Motor Truck. This is a pre-war version with black wheels and open rear window in the cab. In Jacques Dujardin's encyclopedia he lists 2 versions, one listed with an olive green body, smooth black wheels, smooth white tyres and thin axles  and a second with a khaki body, treaded tyres and thin axles. So I am not sure which version mine comes under as it has smooth black wheels, smooth black tyres and thin axles.

This is a companion to my 22s Small searchlight lorry which I have had for some time.

3. 25g. Four wheel trailer. This has smooth wheels painted the same colour as the body, fine treaded tyres and thin axles. The tow bar is flat tinplate painted black. I dont think this has been recorded in Jacques encyclopedia.

I am very pleased with these 3 items as I think they are quite unusual and possibly quite rare (althought the 22f is more common).

Chris.

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 Chris---Very nice additions and not very common at all.  A question, did all the pre-war 22c trucks come without a silver colored grill or front of radiator?  I thought I remembered seeing them painted silver.  Your version with the searchlight was a military model, so wouldn't expect it.

     Best regards,  Terry

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So maybe this was intended to be a military version?  Just curious.....

      Terry

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The 22c Motor Truck is definitely a military version without the silver painted radiator, but as far as I am aware all the other versions had the silver radiator.

Chris.

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 Chris---I guess I am confused.  Usually military versions of civilian trucks were given a different number to separately identify them.  Then, when I looked further, under the 22c listing in one of my Richardson books, it makes no mention at all of a military version of the 22c, nor does it list that color.  Is it possible that is a South African version, made especially for them only?  This is very interesting!
    Best regards,  Terry

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Chris--One more quick comment.  I just looked in my Great Book of Dinky Toys, and it does mention that the 22c Motor Truck was issued in olive drab for the SA Defense Forces......but only as a post-war issue in early 1950's.....but that one would not have the pre-war thin axles, but would be quite rare today.

      Terry

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