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-Boxes General Discussions including end flaps, both British and French

Greetings all

Within the 686 and 641 Topics, various discussions have taken place concerning the unusual extensions that can be found in many box inner end-flaps, or the inclusion of additional printing on an inner end-flap.  These extensions and additional printing seems to indicate an experiment by Meccano that would enable a retailer to write the price on the box, leaving that inner flap exposed while on display which can then be hidden once all the flaps are closed and the box and model are sold.

As these have been seen in both British and French boxes, I thought having a Topic in both British Dinky Toys and French Dinky Toys would be impractical so I hope I am correct by commencing this Topic with the Dinky Toys Technical Discussions!

The following images are three examples of these unusual inner end-flaps, in a possible order when these occurred, the 1st version in a first issue box, the 2nd in a later issue lighter yellow box and the 3rd being an example found on a French Dinky Toys, the 510 Peugeot 204.

There are undoubtedly many more so hopefully, other collectors can add to this Topic..

Kind regards

Bruce

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Bruce,

Thank you for showing your very interesting 641 boxes. I have also found a picture of a box with fourth flap for the 300 Massey Harris tractor.

On this one, the aditional fourth flap seems to be attached to the end flap and not on one of the inner flaps.

This thread will have to deal with two subjects :

1) Fourth detachable flaps

2) Printed inner flaps

Both were used in France

It is thought that the detachable flaps were intended for stock management by the dealers but I will not confirm this yet. I must first find when they were first used and see in the trade catalogs if this is explained.

The printed inner flaps were often printed with the type and reference of spare tyres to be used with the model.

Sorry, no time for any pictures today, This is on my to do list.

 

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Nothing has happened on this thread in the last eight years.

A longtime ago, I found a photo of a box for the # 686 - 25 pdr. gun with an extra flap. Are there any similar boxes ?

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Does anyone have broad box type availability data? I'm looking at the short-lived window boxes from 1965 which were quickly supplanted by the yellow plastic plinth with clear cover type. i have a 215 Ford GT, a toy saved from my childhood from which I discarded of course the unwanted flimsy card & film box. It is an early one 215 without the base holes usually found on those models which clipped onto the yellow plastic bases. From eBay I have just obtained a replacement for the missing 215 card box in very good but aged complete order and still with the "Mr. Dealer - please remove this strip" attached over the top & rear film - it has travelled in the past apparently as it has 10ff price pencilled on it.

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In the Binns Road Gazette of September/October 1999, Volume 1, Number 5, by Keith Harvie, there's an article about Lines Bros 1964-71. These boxes are described and illustrated in it. A list of these boxes is also included. I'm trying to send you a personal message via DTCA. I managed to attach photos once. I'm trying to attach photos to my message. If I can't do it tonight, I'll try tomorrow.

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I managed to send a personal message via DTCA messages with two scans from Keith Harvie's article about the Dinky boxes from Lines Bros.

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Quite fascinating - in my seventy years of enjoying Dinky Toys, I don't recall having any of these 'extended flap' boxes. Of course, I probably did have several as a youngster, but the boxes were usually quickly discarded in favour of playing with the toy within - the follies of youth! Although I currently have around forty yellow-boxed examples from the late fifties and early sixties, none of them have this feature.