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Hi Terry,
You did well there! The darker blue rear on the Bedford is difficult to find, let alone in such good condition!
Chris Warr.

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Arrived this morning.

Now, I think that my Loud Speaker family is complete.
Will post a photo of the group very soon.
Kind regards
Richard

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Hi Richard,

Congratulations on completing your Loudspeaker vans!

Here are a few I've picked up recently, I can't resist the Pre War stuff........

The Speed of the Wind is a variation for me, White and Silver racing number backgrounds, the open back 6 wheel lorry is a Searchlight unit, so I'm on the lookout for one to fit,

I was really pleased with the Type 1 25 Tipper, as his Type 2 younger brother was waiting for him...

Don't just sit there pass the Superglue!

Chris Warr.

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Unpacked one hour ago: a fresh and shiny vnm Aveling Barford Diesel Roller in the scarcer apple green colour finish!

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Ian, this is a beauty, now you must look for the promotionnal dark green and the orange.

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Made in 1949, this Studebaker has played a lot !
I did not have it with the metallic wheels !

Very happy to found it !

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Just arrived my first pre war airplane trade box. 60p Gloster Gadiator. Dated 2-38.
Very nice, I am really pleased with it!

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One more picture!

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Some more nice new arrivals to see! Here is one of mine, just arrived a few days ago....the French Dinky 25 Ford Wagon or Truck. This is my first early one, with the metal wheels, and early base, so am guessing from about 1950. Not mint, but still in pretty good shape. Also a photo of my current little 25 series Ford collection...still have a few to try and find!
Terry

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A most appreciated arrival is a very common 437 Muir Hill 2WL Loader. Except this little fellow is truly mint, as it has never been opened and removed from its packaging as evidenced by the two heavy duty staples on both ends securing the vacuform to the cardboard base, one of these visible in the photograph. No problem with calling this 437 mint and boxed!

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Terry
Nice seeing so many together, especially with your latest acquisition. Great job!
Bruce

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Lovely collection Terry, I must have a look at getting a few more French Dinky lorries, they are wonderful.
Bruce, I've not seen that "Made in England....etc" sticker before, is there lettering it covers up? An export model maybe?
Chris Warr.

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Bruce,

I have never seen a stapled card tray. Yours has the securing cello tapes as well. Are these staples original ? Has any body seen any staples before ?

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Hello Chris
The sticker, 'MADE IN ENGLAND BY MECCANO LTD, BINNS ROAD, LIVERPOOL. L13 1DA" is on the outside of the plastic cover, which covers "This product conforms to British Standards BS 3443". I cannot see if there is anything else underneath as the cover is slightly cracked at the top. On the opposite side it has Made by MECCANO England. I am attaching an image of that side. I have a very small image of a similar 437 that has the Sales number thicker. I will see if it can also be attached. I took this photo in 2002 with a camera with very little pixels, but I do have a colour print of it so will scan that and see if it is better.

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As far as I can tell, the staples are of the industrial type, and I cannot see how a normal stapler would work as there is only a small aperture and the staples are bent inwards inside the cardboard base where the sticky tape goes through. I will endeavour to photograph it under good conditions. I have also noticed on turning it over, the underneath has "Meccano Ltd, Binns Road, Liverpool L13 1DA Tel: 051-228-2701" which I presume appears normally on this box type, as I have no others to compare it with, as I have sold off most of the variations which unbelievably totalled an impressive 37! It has been many years since I looked at my check-list on the variations for this model, but will do so when time permits. Like the Bedford 25M and 25W/410 and 411 which amounts to 18 casting and base plate variations!
Bruce
Can everyone check their blister pack models to see if there are two little holes on both ends that would match up with a staple having been removed. Perhaps mine was applied afterwards but for what reason?

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I went to the Lacy Scott and Knight auction today in Bury St Edmonds and acquired the following three items:

All are near mint, the bargain of the day was the Studebaker for

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Dave,
Lovely stuff! The Regent looks immaculate you must be pleased with that!

Bruce,
I wonder if your blister pack was given the sticker to cover the British Standard marking for export, and if it was also stapled as it had a bit further to go than most, and these do tend to pop open!

Here's my own new arrival, No29 AEC Q...

Chris Warr.

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Chris - I think you have a point. The label has been pasted over the British Standards notice, and as you said these models had further to travel. Perhaps other members living in the US may be able to answer the query about staple holes left in the cardboard plinth.
Bruce

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Congratulations, Dave. The 'Regent' is wonderful and the Studebaker is one in the ever increasing number of bargains we come across nowadays, even for mint/boxed stuff!
Kind regards, Jan

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Chris and Dave
Nice finds for both of you. I have also noticed some better results on bidding items on eBay recently..... Lower prices for some nice items. Love that Regent Tanker and the Studebaker is very nice too.
Terry

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Dave
The benefit of personally attending an auction! At least one can check the tabs on a tanker!! The Regent appears to be an excellent buy, with it being one of the last to go on sale with a price of 12/6 on the lid, a price current at the end of 1957 and into early 1958. What are the inspection stamp details? The 172 - well as you said, quite a bargain, but that Foden! Good thing I was not bidding at the same time!!
Bruce

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The stamp on the box lid is May 1955 so it may not be the original one for this tanker.

Dave

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It is always possible that the model is the original as it could have been old stock. Even the price 12/6 has not shown up in any of the UK paperwork I have, so it might even be a price from somewhere else that also uses pounds, shillings and pence, but not Australia or New Zealand with the Australian price in 1957 being 18/9. South Africa wrote their currency in a similar fashion. (In my earlier post, I had only made an assumption that the price had increased from 11/6 to 12/6 for the last period stated.) Production of the Foden "Regent" took place during April, May and June 1955, October and December 1955, February and April 1956 and June 1957, the latter price being 11/6. Of course production could have occurred at other times, except I have not received any data to this effect.
So, I am still inclined to think your model and its box never parted company for two reasons. Firstly as mentioned it could have been sitting around in Meccano or a shop for ages before it was sold. Secondly, with the quality of the box and the model it is readily apparent that the first and subsequent owners took great care of both, so why swap a model. I have an almost mint 419 with a very good box. I can see no justification in swapping either for a better example.
Hope that makes you feel better!
Bruce

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A recent arrival into our household has been a 533 Leyland Cement Wagon. I thought the model and box looked OK when I lodged my bid with Wallis & Wallis, but unwrapping it, both turned out to be far better than expected! The model does have very minor chips, but I am still delighted with it!
Bruce

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I would never refuse such a beauty :) (and so is the box). Congratulations! Jan

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I have bought a few items from Wallis and Wallis and always found them good.

The one you have here is really nice.

Dave

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Jan and Dave
Thank you very much for your compliments on the little 533. Not seen is the condition of the base, the cardboard edging with not a trace of wear. Now what to do with all the others?? :( Glenn Butler at Wallis and Wallis is a real gentleman, a businessman no doubt, but nonetheless a delightful chap. I have been a very longtime client of the company and I have found his staff extremely courteous and their postage charges extremely reasonable. Recently I have moved most of my business to Glenn whom I met in August 2005 when I attended my first British auction in his wonderfully quaint, old premises. I was one very happy fellow returning to Bromley in the afternoon with my four Dinky Toys! I was like a young boy again, glancing every so often in the package I was holding, as we jogged along in my Southeastern train to Victoria Station, making certain they were travelling well!! I would have won more except I was under strict instructions to limit my purchases due to space and weight limitations in our suitcases! These are the little gems - who could not resist them??!! :blink:
Bruce

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Bruce--Lovely finds there.....that Leyland looks great. It reminds me that I need to find a nicer replacement for mine, which I purchased over 30 years ago, when I had somewhat lower standards. It isn't bad, but has a number of visible chips. The other grouping is also wonderful....that Triumph and MG are particular favorites.
Is it possible for someone like me to bid online for items at Wallis and Wallis, or do you need to be there? I would sure like to have some other source besides eBay here is the states...thanks!
Terry

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Terry

Wallis and Wallis have two means of bidding on their auctions. The first is through their catalogues and their own website and lodging an absentee bid. The other means is through an online auction site in association with www.the-saleroom.com, through which Wallis & Wallis and countless other auction houses runs the same auction although through this site one has to pay an extra fee which I think is about 3% plus the auction house's commission fees. Still bidding live means you can always opt out when bidding reaches your maximum. It is like eBay and bidding through www.invaluable.com with auctions conducted by Vectis, although in the case of Vectis they have their own online bidding site as well which saves the invaluable.com fee.

One bad thing with lodging an absentee bid that I have noticed since online auctions commenced, particularly with one auction house, is that frequently they will start the bidding process at the maximum amount submitted by an absentee bidder, rather than starting at the catalogue's suggested starting price and then working up to the highest bidder, with bidding possibly not reaching the maximum submitted by the absentee bidder. The absentee bidder will still obtain the item but at the next highest bidding increment which in many cases could be far less than his maximum absentee bid amount. I am not too certain about the legalities used by auctioneers starting the bidding process at the maximum submitted by an absentee bidder. I think they tend to play on how much a bidder really wants an item and as the process is rather quick, and is difficult to record. However I have a number of screen dumps that prove this scenario does frequently happen. The excuse is usually that accepting the maximum amount saves on time in running the auction and somehow I do not think that is neither right or legal!

If you would like more details including the pitfalls associated with the online bidding sites, drop me a note at landahoyatnetspacedotnetdotau. I also have a suggestion about members buying and selling without going through commercial auctions, thus saving an incredible amount of money for both the buyer and seller, and which the association could benefit.

Many thanks too for your kind and appreciated words about my 533. Perhaps I could send you some images of the others that are now awaiting a new and appreciative Dinkyholic!!

Kind regards

Bruce

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Bruce
Sorry I did not thank you sooner for responding to my query about the various toy auction houses and how bidding works. I do not want to waste valuable space here in discussing it further, so I will write you at the address you provided. Thanks again, and so glad to see both you and Rob here, adding so much to our discussions!
Terry

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