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-139am, 170m and 675 US Army Staff Car (Ford Fordor) (1952-58)

Just some comparative photos below, showing base plate and front axle supports differences. The later supports were shortened. The early base plate for 139am shows the ridges whereas the later 675 is flat with larger lettering + number 170, which is the later number for the civilian Ford Fordor, but remained there for the Military version too. No. 675 was sold in a plain yellow box with Dinky Toys brand name in red on all surfaces. The end flaps say: 'Army Staff Car'.

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Nice to see this new topic. This Ford Sedan is one of my favorites because of all the different colours issued and the army staff car with large lettering on the baseplate is the one in my collection. I compared them after reading the above post of Jan and can confirm that all my fordors with small lettering on the baseplate (left row) have the long axle supports and the ones with large lettering (right row) have the short axle support. All fordors with large lettering on the baseplate have the marking ford sedan on the inside of the ceiling. So does my army staff car.

 

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Thank you very much, Kas, for showing your many - if not all - variants of this model. Impressive!

The more remarkable it is that my civilian 170 is a kind of transitional/hybrid model, having the old type base plate but combined with the new reduced front axle supports. Kind regards, Jan 

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Things are more complicated than it seems. There are not only three variations : under the model but also three different ceilings : smooth, marked Ford Sedan and crossed hatched, there are also four different finish. This may lead to a great number of variations.

There are ten different criteria and four of them are necessary to describe a model. In order to know exactly which versions are available, the table below can be used but each column MUST be filled with four marks.

Can you please copy this table, complete or fill it with your model's description and send it back to me, I will keep this post updated and this table could then be published in the journal.

             

                     

                                    The Swedish made army staff car by Lemeco. It was NOT cast in the die from Meccano.

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Hello all

I do not know whick book is on this photo but te writer certainly does not know what he is talking about. The translated text reads : "this quite rare model carries on his roof the circled star which was the reconnaissance sign of the allied forces during the D day landing in Normandy from June 6, 1944. Made by Meccano Great Britain in 1954 for the 10th anniversary of the landing"

Every word in this text is wrong including the title "Fordor US Army Staff Car". Meccano never wrote US but only "Army Staff car" because there is a very rare version sold in Canada without the stars. This is the model in the book.

This confirms the saying "not everything written is true".

On Vectis, there are a few very dark green staff cars. Is there any information about this colour variation ?

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Hi Jacques, with the page number shown it was easy to trace its origin: Dominique Pascal's Dinky Toys - Autos, camions, engins. E/P/A, 2007.